Can't decide which gun - advice appreciated

[Omnivorous]

Hello, I'm new to airsoft and looking into buying my first gun. I'd love to get an AEG that costs around $200 but would pay more if it's worth it. I love the look of the HK 416 but can't find one for less than $400. Right now it seems like that Crosman R76 for $150 is the best deal for something with a metal gearbox and that shoots close to 400 fps. Any suggestions? Thanks.

This is the gun I -love-...

[[SIK] Piér]

You should consider investing around 400.00$ for an AEG.

[Forever_kaos]

Crosman really is not even an Airsoft brand, it's SoftAir aka ShitSoft.

If you get Age Verified by meeting up with your local rep proving you are 18+, you will then gain access to loads of guns for sale in the classifieds.
$250-350 will get you a decent-okay gun.

If you're serious about playing, add in a fair bit more for battery, mags, gear etc..

[TokyoSeven]

Unfortunately in Canada airsoft does not work like it does in the rest of the world. Well that's not true, the game is the same but the details about how airsoft guns get into Canada and how they exist in Canada are a fair bit different. Pricing in Canada is a significantly higher than that of anywhere else in the world. Due to the fact that only certain business and people can import airsoft guns prices are much higher due to shipping, freight, brokerage, retailer mark up and supply and demand costs.

Hate to be a bubble buster but a budget of $200 is not really gonna help much. Its a good start dont get me wrong. Evens gotta start somewhere and its understandable if a person does not want to sink that much money into something right off the bat. However when it boils down to the truth its buy crap buy twice or even more. Its better to learn about the basics first so you can gain the knowledge to make a decent decision so you can understand why things are the way they are, why guns cost the prices they do and whats good. You will quickly learn that the Crosman R76 is not good and no money should be invested towards it.


If you are still interested in a 416 style airsoft gun the least I can tell you is that brands like JG and VFC occasionally pop up in this websites buy and sell section. However in order to access it you require this websites age verification. Its nothing huge, just a screening processes this website has in order to find out if a person is the age of legal majority (18). Its not so much a maturity thing as their are adults that act immature its more of a legality issue. As it stands people under the age of 18 cannot be legally held responsible for their actions and fault would fall on that of parents or guardians if something were to happen. Give the nature of airsoft Im sure you can understand. If you are interested in age verification just pop on over to this link and read through the details and find someone in your area.

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=49408


Once you have Age verification you will be able to access the buy and sell and even access the online retailer listings.

I hope that answers all your questions.

[Omnivorous]

That certainly does help a lot. Thanks a bunch. I'll get age verified and check out the buy and sell section.

What is so bad about the Crosman R76 compared to $350-$400 HK 416 or another AEG? It seems to get the same FPS and has a metal gearbox.

Is it an accuracy/velocity issue or is it a reliability/durability issue?

Thanks again for all the responses. I've been reading a lot and am learning tonnes.

[Huge]

Originally Posted by Omnivorous

That certainly does help a lot. Thanks a bunch. I'll get age verified and check out the buy and sell section.

What is so bad about the Crosman R76 compared to $350-$400 HK 416 or another AEG? It seems to get the same FPS and has a metal gearbox.

Is it an accuracy/velocity issue or is it a reliability/durability issue?

Thanks again for all the responses. I've been reading a lot and am learning tonnes.

It's a lot down to the quality of the materials used, both internally and externally. Crosman guns will break down A LOT sooner than their $400 counterparts.

[HKGhost]

There is a reason why the Crosman cost $150 and others are $400+. It's like comparing a Neo Geo to a BMW. Both goes up to 100Km/h but one is a POS and the other is a beauty.

Originally Posted by Omnivorous

That certainly does help a lot. Thanks a bunch. I'll get age verified and check out the buy and sell section.

What is so bad about the Crosman R76 compared to $350-$400 HK 416 or another AEG? It seems to get the same FPS and has a metal gearbox.

Is it an accuracy/velocity issue or is it a reliability/durability issue?

Thanks again for all the responses. I've been reading a lot and am learning tonnes.

[TokyoSeven]

Originally Posted by HKGhost

There is a reason why the Crosman cost $150 and others are $400+. It's like comparing a Neo Geo to a BMW. Both goes up to 100Km/h but one is a POS and the other is a beauty.

Im sure you meant Geo Metro, cause a Neo Geo is 10 billion times cooler than a BMW.

Wooooo NEO GEO!

[moz_boz]

I like how if you go to the Crossman website for the R76 it tells you that the muzzle velocity is "up to 375fps". Little scary when they don't give you a bottom end!

Omnivorous, my advice to you (having just invested in my first airsoft gun) is to suck it up and spend the extra $$$. And I don't think you are going to get much that is decent for under the $350-$400 range. If you are serious about getting into airsoft, it will be worth the investment.

Also, as my friends warned me...cocaine is a cheaper then airsoft

[Crunchmeister]

Originally Posted by moz_boz

Also, as my friends warned me...cocaine is a cheaper then airsoft

And cocaine is less addictive too.

[Omnivorous]

Originally Posted by HKGhost

There is a reason why the Crosman cost $150 and others are $400+. It's like comparing a Neo Geo to a BMW. Both goes up to 100Km/h but one is a POS and the other is a beauty.

Ahh, that's what I was wondering though. If both guns pack the same punch then I'd probably be willing to sacrifice aesthetics and put up with the nuisance of some minor repairs once in a while to save $250. I shall see though...

[chaosnemesis]

Besides, i hear that it gives you syphilis.



....oh wait that's Cansoft halfbreeds, Crossman gives you herpes.


There are much, much better options out there even for basment plinking. You'll regret spending the 150 bucks. Believe me.... she was my first

But don't worry i used full body protection

[Crunchmeister]

Originally Posted by Omnivorous

Ahh, that's what I was wondering though. If both guns pack the same punch then I'd probably be willing to sacrifice aesthetics and put up with the nuisance of some minor repairs once in a while to save $250. I shall see though...

lol You'll end up spending more than the $250 you saved trying to replace parts in the short term. Then you'll end up scrapping the unserviceable gun and buy a decent one instead.

[Crunchmeister]

...oh, and BTW, Crosman R76 has a plastic mechbox and gears, not metal. I've seen them, and they're not pretty.

[MartyK2500]

man i am reading gun descriptions on the crossman website
http://www.crosman.com/airsoft/rifles/SAPR71
''Muzzle velocities of up to 200 fps make it ideal for back yard skirmishes''
wow that's a good idea