best 20g BB brand ? Biodegradable

[Phileas Fogg]

Hello,
I am new to the hobby / sport, I have read many posts about what not to buy ie. Canadian tire and Walmart BBs.

I just purchased a cyma thompson shooter and am wondering what BB brand is the best?
Are all brands biodegrable?
If not which is the best biodegradable brand?

cheers.

[tehmedic]

BB Bastards are the best i've ever used. They have their biodegradable product line but its a bit more expensive.

personally i use Green Devils Bio bbs

[TokyoSeven]

BB bastard makes some top quality product when it comes to BBs. Their eco line may be exactly what your looking for.

http://www.bbbastard.com/

There are lotsa other brands out there as well but this should get ya started.

[Amos]

I'm very fond of the BB Eco-Bastard line at $15 for 2000 you can't go wrong!

[J-Man19]

Originally Posted by tehmedic

BB Bastards are the best i've ever used. They have their biodegradable product line but its a bit more expensive.

personally i use Green Devils Bio bbs

+1 I love my green devils. PM Darklan

[Rabbit]

Ive seen some biodegradable bbs that look like clumps of dirt..

with bio bbs is the trajectory of the bb affected at all?

Do the white ones fly any better or worse?

[Thanh]

Originally Posted by tehmedic

BB Bastards are the best i've ever used. They have their biodegradable product line but its a bit more expensive.

personally i use Green Devils Bio bbs

Another noob question on the side, why would someone want to pay more money to get bio bbs. What's the benefit other then helping the planet. If I'm not playing in my own backyard why would I care?

[tehmedic]

because i would rather not play in a field that has 2 feet deep of white bbs

[TokyoSeven]

There is the possibility that some owners of a playing fields would prefer if their property was not littered with hundreds of thousands of bbs. Perhaps a venue came up where there was a chance for people to play airsoft on a historical site and the owners have requested the use of bio BBs in order to keep the facility looking close to what it originally was so that people may continue to host events there.

[Boyso]

Originally Posted by Thanh

Another noob question on the side, why would someone want to pay more money to get bio bbs. What's the benefit other then helping the planet. If I'm not playing in my own backyard why would I care?

I don't know for you, but I see this as a huge benefit.

[Thanh]

Originally Posted by LastSpartan

I don't know for you, but I see this as a huge benefit.

That's really not helpful information there...

Originally Posted by TokyoSeven

There is the possibility that some owners of a playing fields would prefer if their property was not littered with hundreds of thousands of bbs. Perhaps a venue came up where there was a chance for people to play airsoft on a historical site and the owners have requested the use of bio BBs in order to keep the facility looking close to what it originally was so that people may continue to host events there.

Yeah that makes sense.

[Scarecrow]

Not to be partisan, but there are reasons for eco-friendly BBs that break down that have to do with stewardship of the land and land remediation.

Jihad Joe, out in Alberta, owner of Plastic Soldier Airsoft posted the following on the JOCAirsoft website in respect to land remediation:

While oil and petro chemicals are frequently refered to in land remediation, is due to the fact that gas stations and petro chemical stations were being decomitioned with leaky storage tanks.

As the environmental sectors of the gov’t have expanded enforcement to include secondary petro chemical products including STYRENE which is classed as a monocyclic aromatic hydro carbon and is thus classed as a petro chemical.
Now as these regs are new there will most likely be a grandfather clause for exsisting styrene contaminate that can be put in place as aslong as the landowner was diligent in changing to the new regs upon enforcement and that the buyer doesnt object.

here is a nunavut land remediation reg that mentions styrene as a remediatable substance. in this link go to page 30 http://www.gov.nu.ca/env/Contaminate...ion%202010.pdf

here is a link to law times discussing this trend


http://www.lawtimesnews.com/20090615...ediation-rules

most provinces are starting to head this way so our styrene bb days are going to end at some point..

SILICA being BIO INERT is not under the class of contaminations...

But this thread was not about eco bbs it was about the silica...

i have hundreds of bags of eco bbs that we can all use anyway..

hehehe

jihad joe

Styrene BBs will eventually go the way of the do-do bird due to the liability that will exist to remediate lands after use. How and when this occurs will mostly be a political process as the laws are changed to enforce this over time. This is a provincial area of responsibility under Ministries of the Environment and lands management agencies. Each province looks to other provinces for precedents and direction, and the influence is already beginning, as witnessed in those two posted links. I highly recommend the reading if you're a land owner or hoster, its a bit of an eye opener.

See reference below:

... this is an example of some of the information covered in the courses at www.asucanada.com

Jay

[sewktbk]

Originally Posted by Thanh

Another noob question on the side, why would someone want to pay more money to get bio bbs. What's the benefit other then helping the planet. If I'm not playing in my own backyard why would I care?

You for real? do you really need ANOTHER benefit? why is "helping the planet" negligible? not trying to turn this into an environment debate, but common. Its like recycling; Its not even harder, and its better for everyone.

You know how ignorant your comment sounds? i dare you to defend your point with valid arguments and sound intelligent or responsible. And don't give me the few extra dollars reason, you'll sound even worst...

[Spawn28]

Originally Posted by Scarecrow

Styrene BBs will eventually go the way of the do-do bird due to the liability that will exist to remediate lands after use. How and when this occurs will mostly be a political process as the laws are changed to enforce this over time. This is a provincial area of responsibility under Ministries of the Environment and lands management agencies. Each province looks to other provinces for precedents and direction, and the influence is already beginning, as witnessed in those two posted links. I highly recommend the reading if you're a land owner or hoster, its a bit of an eye opener.

AW man now what am i gonna put on my cereal in the morning? Styrene and shreddies FTW.

[Thanh]

Originally Posted by sewktbk

You for real? do you really need ANOTHER benefit? why is "helping the planet" negligible? not trying to turn this into an environment debate, but common. Its like recycling; Its not even harder, and its better for everyone.

You know how ignorant your comment sounds? i dare you to defend your point with valid arguments and sound intelligent or responsible. And don't give me the few extra dollars reason, you'll sound even worst...

Learn to read, someone told me a valid point without getting upset like you, and it made sense to me. So I agree with it. If you still have a problem with it you can pm me.

Jesus, people on this forum LOVE to start shit. Remember this is a Newbie Tank, if you have a problem with newbies then I suggest you stop checking this section out, or you might be reported for flaming people.