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Old November 9th, 2011, 21:52   #1
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Reliable GBB Beretta

Well, i've owned a KWA, KWC, KJW, Aftermath, and some other brand of Beretta, and I've been sorely disappointed.

I am looking for a GOOD quality, heavy hard kick Beretta that won't let me down.

please post suggestions, thanks.
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Old November 10th, 2011, 01:08   #2
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Well, those are all the low end guns, so you can't expect top performance out of them. Although I had a KJW M9 for a couple of years and it worked great.

In terms of full metal, that's pretty much the list of options you have unless you get a TM (recommended) and can find a metal kit for it.
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Old November 10th, 2011, 01:42   #3
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KJW and KWA are good choices. KJW sometimes has a questionable reputation, but their Beretta 92 is a pretty solid workhorse. The KWA M9 is a beast.

If you can find a TM, get that (the KJW is a TM clone)
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Old November 10th, 2011, 01:44   #4
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The TM Beretta has a REALLY light slide. It'll move out of battery if a spec of dust even grazes it. It's also got some horrible seam lines. All the same, I love mine. But yeah, get a metal kit.
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Old November 10th, 2011, 01:49   #5
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Well, i've owned a KWA, KWC, KJW, Aftermath, and some other brand of Beretta, and I've been sorely disappointed.

I am looking for a GOOD quality, heavy hard kick Beretta that won't let me down.

please post suggestions, thanks.
Worth mentioning brand names are following:

KSC System 7/ KWA PTP
Tokyo Marui (Keep in mind their M92 was one of their first GBB release)
KJW
Western Arms
WE-Tech


Out of those out of box, KSC Sys 7/ KWA PTP, and KJW are the really only two that's good

I own KSC Sys 7 M9 and KJW M9 Elite, I like KSC Sys 7 better because it has realistic decock function as well as a crisper blow-back.
Reliability wise, its about the same. KJW mag are more prone to leak than KSC Sys 7/KWA PTP
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Old November 10th, 2011, 11:05   #6
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WE is probably a no-go, their GBBR has a good reputation, but most people seems to spit on them. I haven't used one, just handled a few, and I really didn't like them. Note that my impressions might have been biased by the reviews I've read...

That being said, I own a KWA M93RII, which is really (I mean *really*) a great gun to shoot. If it wasn't about the nozzle that had the habit of splitting in half all the time. Just buy a few extra and you're good to go. Now that I used it a bit more, it looks like the problem is lessening, the nozzles seems to last much longer; probably due to the slide gradually "taking its shape". Just make sure to clean and lube it before/after usage and it's a great gun.

In term of M9, I think the KWA PTP would be a great choice. Most parts are supposed to be reinforced and stuff.

Keep in mind that any GBB/GBBR will break at some point. It's just part of the game to keep them in shape on a regular basis.
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Old November 10th, 2011, 11:17   #7
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I own 2 WE m9's and i absolutely love them. Solid, heavy recoil, and have been reliable and functioning for over a year. I e had the odd mag leak, but with 8 mags, eventually you're going to have some leaks. The guns themselves have never had any issues.
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Old November 10th, 2011, 11:21   #8
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I've had a WA beretta 1934 for many years and the little thing just keeps on kicking. Fantastic gun and lasted longer then my old HFC full metal beretta.
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Old November 10th, 2011, 13:37   #9
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If all those have failed, you're either (impossibly) unlucky, or just plain suck.
The KJW is a very reliable gun, with nice internals and at a very affordable price point. Just get two KJW, I dunno.


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Old November 10th, 2011, 16:17   #10
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Kjw have never worked well out of box, I tend to be one of the unluckiest people when it comes to buying stuff, if an item is defective I'll get it.

Although I do have a KSC Bereta Elite IA, but it was made back in 1999 Or 2000, I dunno if I can even get mags for it, but it works great just weak, lacks metal and recoil. But always works.

I'll look at maybe a new KSC.
Not really interested in WE as I've owned 4 we rifles new and none worked with out new parts... Again bad luck lol.


Thanks for the help.
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Old November 10th, 2011, 16:24   #11
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had no problems with my kjw m9 elite, the odd every now and jam due to the air cylinder / loading nozzle needing lubing
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Old November 10th, 2011, 19:54   #12
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From what I understand, Western Arms is apparently the go-to brand for Beretta GBB pistols when it comes to sheer quality and finish. I also understand that they've received a licensed from Beretta, so they ought to come straight out of the box with all the right trades and details.
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