Order from eastcoastairsoft?

dude123 · November 25th, 2012, 22:04

They say that:

"There is a 0% chance for seizure if you pick an item from the Canada Legal area or the Sniper Rifles section of the website or as long as the gun clearly states that it shoots over 366fps."

Is that true and has anyone tried yet?

R.I.T.Z · November 25th, 2012, 22:07

As per site rules we cannot tell your how/where to get airsoft guns.
We can only tell you that airsoft is legal, and there are legal ways to acquire guns.
the only way for the answers to get any clearer is to get age verified, and access
the "restricted" portions of this site.

kalnaren · November 25th, 2012, 22:53

I *was* going to say read the FAQ.. but it appears that information is rather out of date.

DietCoke= · November 25th, 2012, 23:09

See that is the problem with the responses from everyone on the site. I know I've asked questions and be told to read the faq only to find that the relevant post is from 2003. How can I trust that it's been updated etc? There are no indicators of when it was last updated and even if there is one, unless it is recent I'm still not sure. In fact, this faq appears to have last been updated in 2004. After further research I found it contradicted current laws. Perhaps most unfortunately, once I see that a text is partially wrong I begin to doubt its entire validity. So please ASC community members, if you're going to point newcomers somewhere make sure it's in the right direction.

nstahl.19 · November 25th, 2012, 23:32

It would most likely get through with out a problem, like 99.9%, but you really can never know for sure with the CBSA.

I once had a gun held for a couple days, and I've heard people say that they had guns held for a few months.

redneck12 · November 26th, 2012, 00:01

All the current and relevant info for importing is in the age restricted area so you need to be age verified to read it.

DietCoke= · November 26th, 2012, 00:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by redneck12

All the current and relevant info for importing is in the age restricted area so you need to be age verified to read it.

If that is the case and I understand why it would be then newcomers should be informed of that. Wasting people's time seems unnecessary when one can simply the questioner to get age verified.

R.I.T.Z · November 26th, 2012, 00:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by DietCoke=

If that is the case and I understand why it would be then newcomers should be informed of that. Wasting people's time seems unnecessary when one can simply the questioner to get age verified.

you'd be surprised how many people refuse to get verified.
as for the FAQ being out of date.
While it is true there are threads there that are out dated, there are still relevant threads regarding other topics.
Also the FAQ shouldn;t be the only stop for reading, there are a tonne of threads in other sections of the forum which hold information, usually more up to date. Chances are if you want to ask a question, its been asked and answered before.This MAGICAL TOOL Can help you out a lot.

THe_Silencer · November 26th, 2012, 00:47

Ordered a pistol from them once a while back back when they *practically guaranteed* guns could be shipped to Canada. It got seized and they didn't do shit about it since they weren't responsible. Besides, they carry mostly shit Chinese guns they don't cost much less than Canadian retailers. Then u gotta gactor in dealing with CBSA and getting hit with taxes, customs fees, shipping and brokerage. I can think of ZERO reason why any Canadian would buy from ECA.

DietCoke= · November 26th, 2012, 01:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by R.I.T.Z

you'd be surprised how many people refuse to get verified.
as for the FAQ being out of date.
While it is true there are threads there that are out dated, there are still relevant threads regarding other topics.
Also the FAQ shouldn;t be the only stop for reading, there are a tonne of threads in other sections of the forum which hold information, usually more up to date. Chances are if you want to ask a question, its been asked and answered before.This MAGICAL TOOL Can help you out a lot.

Why do they refuse? Besides being under-age of course.

pestobanana · November 26th, 2012, 02:41

It is not a 0% chance. It is supposed to be legal, but there are entire threads in the AV section full of people waiting for their guns to be tested/released. One guy said he waited for over a year. I also see no benefit in ordering from that site in their Canada Legal section, when some Canadian retailers carry the same stuff for much the same price considering shipping and applicable taxes/tariffs.

boren93 · November 26th, 2012, 03:07

If I remember correctly someone bought a rifle from them and it was labeled as "garden ornaments" or "tools". They usually use false labels.

L473ncy · November 26th, 2012, 04:03

By the way. False labels WILL make YOU incur penalties in your import from CBSA and possibly put you on some list somewhere (you know with 9/11 and TSA and all that).

kalnaren · November 26th, 2012, 10:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by DietCoke=

See that is the problem with the responses from everyone on the site. I know I've asked questions and be told to read the faq only to find that the relevant post is from 2003. How can I trust that it's been updated etc? There are no indicators of when it was last updated and even if there is one, unless it is recent I'm still not sure. In fact, this faq appears to have last been updated in 2004. After further research I found it contradicted current laws. Perhaps most unfortunately, once I see that a text is partially wrong I begin to doubt its entire validity. So please ASC community members, if you're going to point newcomers somewhere make sure it's in the right direction.

Truth be told, it's only been in the last 12 months that things have really changed as far as an individual is concerned, so it's actually not that out of date.

Unfortunetly it's against the rules of this site to inform a non-AV member how to procure guns, other than say to get AV'd (threads in the FAQ

) and look at local retailers and/or the ASC classifieds.

lurkingknight · November 26th, 2012, 11:48

I'm quite surprised... CBSA CAN report anyone store or individual to the US authorities for fraud if thy declare their goods improperly.

I've had retailers refusing to declare print magazines as books or model kits as toys because they were so afraid of getting reported for misrepresenting things on export documents. Another one that's generally abused is the gift option, people think that will get them out of fees, it's not guaranteed.

There are plenty of canadian retailers that can be found if someone refuses to get AVed... and information regarding importing your guns is easily available if you're not lazy. I mean did evike, asgi and airsoftmegastore all sign up here to get aved in order to learn how to ship to canada? It definitely can help to be aved, but a resourceful, intelligent person can find out everything they need.

And then a resourceful intelligent person could also see that for the most part, it's generally not worth the cost after shipping and duty and taxes with the lingering risk that customs seizure is STILL at the discretion of the CBSA officials reviewing your paperwork. Most common guns these days can be had for 20-50$ more than the landed on your doorstep price of an import. So pay 50$ more or roll the dice to see if you lose 400 in a seizure?

It's not my money. :P

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November 25th, 2012, 22:04	#1
dude123 Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2012	Order from eastcoastairsoft? They say that: "There is a 0% chance for seizure if you pick an item from the Canada Legal area or the Sniper Rifles section of the website or as long as the gun clearly states that it shoots over 366fps." Is that true and has anyone tried yet?

November 25th, 2012, 23:09	#4
DietCoke= Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2012	See that is the problem with the responses from everyone on the site. I know I've asked questions and be told to read the faq only to find that the relevant post is from 2003. How can I trust that it's been updated etc? There are no indicators of when it was last updated and even if there is one, unless it is recent I'm still not sure. In fact, this faq appears to have last been updated in 2004. After further research I found it contradicted current laws. Perhaps most unfortunately, once I see that a text is partially wrong I begin to doubt its entire validity. So please ASC community members, if you're going to point newcomers somewhere make sure it's in the right direction. Last edited by DietCoke=; November 25th, 2012 at 23:12..

November 26th, 2012, 00:47	#9
THe_Silencer Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Hamilton,ON	Ordered a pistol from them once a while back back when they practically guaranteed guns could be shipped to Canada. It got seized and they didn't do shit about it since they weren't responsible. Besides, they carry mostly shit Chinese guns they don't cost much less than Canadian retailers. Then u gotta gactor in dealing with CBSA and getting hit with taxes, customs fees, shipping and brokerage. I can think of ZERO reason why any Canadian would buy from ECA. __________________ It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it - Aristotle -Founder of Steel City Hamilton Infantry and Tactics -Certified level 43 Autosniper by Commander Amos

November 25th, 2012, 22:07	#2
R.I.T.Z Crackers Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: The Shwa	As per site rules we cannot tell your how/where to get airsoft guns. We can only tell you that airsoft is legal, and there are legal ways to acquire guns. the only way for the answers to get any clearer is to get age verified, and access the "restricted" portions of this site.

November 25th, 2012, 23:32	#5
nstahl.19 Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Kitchener, ON	It would most likely get through with out a problem, like 99.9%, but you really can never know for sure with the CBSA. I once had a gun held for a couple days, and I've heard people say that they had guns held for a few months.

November 26th, 2012, 00:01	#6
redneck12 Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Peterborough	All the current and relevant info for importing is in the age restricted area so you need to be age verified to read it.

November 26th, 2012, 02:41	#11
pestobanana Squid Porn Superstar, I love the tentacles! Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Richmond Hill and Waterloo, Ontario	It is not a 0% chance. It is supposed to be legal, but there are entire threads in the AV section full of people waiting for their guns to be tested/released. One guy said he waited for over a year. I also see no benefit in ordering from that site in their Canada Legal section, when some Canadian retailers carry the same stuff for much the same price considering shipping and applicable taxes/tariffs.

November 26th, 2012, 03:07	#12
boren93 Dicks Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: ก็็็็็็็็็็็็็	If I remember correctly someone bought a rifle from them and it was labeled as "garden ornaments" or "tools". They usually use false labels. __________________ Last edited by boren93; November 26th, 2012 at 03:10..

November 26th, 2012, 04:03	#13
L473ncy Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: 11-30-24-1W5	By the way. False labels WILL make YOU incur penalties in your import from CBSA and possibly put you on some list somewhere (you know with 9/11 and TSA and all that). __________________ ಠ_ಠLess QQ more Pew Pew READY TO >> RACE

November 26th, 2012, 11:48	#15
lurkingknight "bb bukakke" KING! Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Ottawa	I'm quite surprised... CBSA CAN report anyone store or individual to the US authorities for fraud if thy declare their goods improperly. I've had retailers refusing to declare print magazines as books or model kits as toys because they were so afraid of getting reported for misrepresenting things on export documents. Another one that's generally abused is the gift option, people think that will get them out of fees, it's not guaranteed. There are plenty of canadian retailers that can be found if someone refuses to get AVed... and information regarding importing your guns is easily available if you're not lazy. I mean did evike, asgi and airsoftmegastore all sign up here to get aved in order to learn how to ship to canada? It definitely can help to be aved, but a resourceful, intelligent person can find out everything they need. And then a resourceful intelligent person could also see that for the most part, it's generally not worth the cost after shipping and duty and taxes with the lingering risk that customs seizure is STILL at the discretion of the CBSA officials reviewing your paperwork. Most common guns these days can be had for 20-50$ more than the landed on your doorstep price of an import. So pay 50$ more or roll the dice to see if you lose 400 in a seizure? It's not my money. :P

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