WE P90 impressions

dmitril · November 6th, 2015, 18:00

Go here for the review. These are my impressions gaming this toy.

Trigger
Bullpup triggers are known to be shit. Well be prepared for the worst trigger in your life. It was so heavy in semi mode that I had difficulty going through a single full mag. And that's with my rock climbing tempered forearms.
Another issue I had was trigger mechanism was not returning fully during semi fire so I could still do full auto but semi wouldn't work at times.

Good news are that adding a spacer between the trigger and the bar that engages the trigger mechanism made the semi pull about 4 times lighter and therefore completely reasonable. Greasing the trigger box fixed the not returning fully issue, though be sure to use grease and not just silicone oil.

Basically this came down to loose tolerances WE has for manufacturing this gun when the mechanism requires a tighter fit..

Update: Gotta clean and magic-lube the trigger mech at least once a season or it will get stuck on you eventually.

Magazine
The gas capacity is good. The feeding is also good with one note. I already mentioned tolerance issues with the trigger. There are also tolerance issues with mag feed button. Just so happens that if you don't press hard enough on the mag feed release lever the mag just won't feed.

Out of the box all 3 of my mags were failing to feed beyond 25 rounds due to the pin that is supposed to push this lever being too short. Issue solved by gluing on a thin metal plate. A different problem now is that when taking out a mag that is mostly full a round usually jumps out. That extra that I grew the pin is enough to allow the BB to move out slightly more and the spring does the rest, I'll do some filing later to see if I can fix this.

Again looks like the design requires tolerances beyond WE manufacturing capabilities.

Update: The stock o-ring on the mag release valve has started leaking on all of my mags, no problems after replacing this so I guess the stock material is shit. The fill side mag end also started leaking, not unexpected, rtv silicone ftw. Also had to silicone the internal reservoir.

Verdict
I like bullpups, I like the way P90 looks and feels, and I like hacking with things therefore I like it. Whether this is a gun for you depends on how good you are with your hands, don't expect a solid performer out of the box, though I wouldn't be surprised to find out I just got really unlucky with my tolerances and it performs better stock on average.

RainyEyes · November 6th, 2015, 18:28

Pictures in the reddit thread are somewhat nsfw. May contain dildos. Apparently that's a speedloader?

daishi · November 6th, 2015, 19:07

I'm going to wait till WE releases version 2 or 3 of this to fix all the problems and nuisances the crop up, as in all their other products.

dmitril · November 6th, 2015, 19:38

That dildo works. Period.

8bitninja · November 6th, 2015, 23:02

For a moment I was thinking meh, who cares since I now have a TM and CYMA P90 but then you mentioned gas mags. I thought this baby wasn't going on sale yet but hey.

So in a nutshell, expect usual WE quality but amplified (better or... worse) because it's a bullpup. Sound right?

TorinoFermic · November 6th, 2015, 23:42

A very professional and serious review of the WE P90

RainyEyes · November 6th, 2015, 23:46

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Originally Posted by TorinoFermic

A very professional and serious review of the WE P90

Warning: cringe.

I don't even want to know what they're saying.

ccyg8774 · November 12th, 2015, 22:24

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Originally Posted by dmitril

That dildo works. Period.

As a speedloader or...?

Styrak · November 17th, 2015, 15:05

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Originally Posted by daishi

I'm going to wait till WE releases version 2 or 3 of this to fix all the problems and nuisances the crop up, as in all their other products.

You mean when WE's partner company RA-TECH releases steel replacement internals so you can basically buy the gun twice like most WE rifles? LOL.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmitril

That dildo works. Period.

If you're bleeding you're not using enough lube.

DFoxtails · November 18th, 2015, 01:43

Okay...I need to know when I can get my hands on one of these.

cav. · November 18th, 2015, 01:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by DFoxtails

Okay...I need to know when I can get my hands on one of these.

Now

BioRage · November 18th, 2015, 10:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by DFoxtails

Okay...I need to know when I can get my hands on one of these.

$580

http://airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=175060

dmitril · November 18th, 2015, 13:47

Got it on asiaairsoft.com, got lucky and skipped tax too.

BioRage · November 18th, 2015, 14:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmitril

Got it on asiaairsoft.com, got lucky and skipped tax too.

Nice, glad to see it came in fine from AA.

guysullavin · November 18th, 2015, 18:49

I'm very interested in the setup, but I too will be waiting for a more refined model to come out. Even if RA-Tech releases some parts I think Ill keep waiting. RA-Tech has been pretty hit or miss in my own situation.

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November 6th, 2015, 18:00	#1
dmitril Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: GTA	WE P90 impressions Go here for the review. These are my impressions gaming this toy. Trigger Bullpup triggers are known to be shit. Well be prepared for the worst trigger in your life. It was so heavy in semi mode that I had difficulty going through a single full mag. And that's with my rock climbing tempered forearms. Another issue I had was trigger mechanism was not returning fully during semi fire so I could still do full auto but semi wouldn't work at times. Good news are that adding a spacer between the trigger and the bar that engages the trigger mechanism made the semi pull about 4 times lighter and therefore completely reasonable. Greasing the trigger box fixed the not returning fully issue, though be sure to use grease and not just silicone oil. Basically this came down to loose tolerances WE has for manufacturing this gun when the mechanism requires a tighter fit.. Update: Gotta clean and magic-lube the trigger mech at least once a season or it will get stuck on you eventually. Magazine The gas capacity is good. The feeding is also good with one note. I already mentioned tolerance issues with the trigger. There are also tolerance issues with mag feed button. Just so happens that if you don't press hard enough on the mag feed release lever the mag just won't feed. Out of the box all 3 of my mags were failing to feed beyond 25 rounds due to the pin that is supposed to push this lever being too short. Issue solved by gluing on a thin metal plate. A different problem now is that when taking out a mag that is mostly full a round usually jumps out. That extra that I grew the pin is enough to allow the BB to move out slightly more and the spring does the rest, I'll do some filing later to see if I can fix this. Again looks like the design requires tolerances beyond WE manufacturing capabilities. Update: The stock o-ring on the mag release valve has started leaking on all of my mags, no problems after replacing this so I guess the stock material is shit. The fill side mag end also started leaking, not unexpected, rtv silicone ftw. Also had to silicone the internal reservoir. Verdict I like bullpups, I like the way P90 looks and feels, and I like hacking with things therefore I like it. Whether this is a gun for you depends on how good you are with your hands, don't expect a solid performer out of the box, though I wouldn't be surprised to find out I just got really unlucky with my tolerances and it performs better stock on average. Last edited by dmitril; September 27th, 2016 at 18:14..

November 6th, 2015, 18:28	#2
RainyEyes Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Scarbororororough	Pictures in the reddit thread are somewhat nsfw. May contain dildos. Apparently that's a speedloader? Last edited by RainyEyes; November 6th, 2015 at 18:31..

November 6th, 2015, 23:02	#5
8bitninja Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2015	For a moment I was thinking meh, who cares since I now have a TM and CYMA P90 but then you mentioned gas mags. I thought this baby wasn't going on sale yet but hey. So in a nutshell, expect usual WE quality but amplified (better or... worse) because it's a bullpup. Sound right? __________________ "...However, if preserving the integrity of the gun was the only factor at play then clearly the best option would be to run a 0.0v Lipo and run around shouting 'bang'."

November 6th, 2015, 19:38	#4
dmitril Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: GTA	That dildo works. Period.

November 6th, 2015, 23:42	#6
TorinoFermic Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Russell, ON	A very professional and serious review of the WE P90

November 18th, 2015, 01:43	#10
DFoxtails Trader rating Join Date: May 2009 Location: Kelowna, B.C	Okay...I need to know when I can get my hands on one of these. __________________ QUOTH MY BOOMSTICK: NEVERMORE

November 18th, 2015, 13:47	#13
dmitril Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: GTA	Got it on asiaairsoft.com, got lucky and skipped tax too.

November 18th, 2015, 18:49	#15
guysullavin Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Toronto, ON	I'm very interested in the setup, but I too will be waiting for a more refined model to come out. Even if RA-Tech releases some parts I think Ill keep waiting. RA-Tech has been pretty hit or miss in my own situation.

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