Opinions on upgrades for new TM MP5K

Hedonism Bot · November 16th, 2005, 13:02

I've searched the archives and have found some rough ideas. I was wondering if someone could offer some input on things I may be over looking. In upgrading the power of the gun I dont want to compromise it's durability.

Can you please add to the below list items that should be added and their approximate cost?

So far I know I'm adding an eg 1000 motor and a PDI 150% spring.

I know I should add a larger battery but I don't want to add a Stock to hide it in or file down the cocking lever to make more room. Would it really make the gun suffer if I left the small stick battery stock and just bought 2 spares to swap out?

Any tips?

Thanks,

Treadstone71 · November 16th, 2005, 13:07

Uprages?

Hedonism Bot · November 16th, 2005, 13:09

I thought making fun of terrible spellers was looked down upon here.

The sad part is that english is my first and only language. I did however just get off a night shift and am sleep deprieved.

Mantelope · November 16th, 2005, 13:11

I would strongly recommend getting an 1100mAh battery made from GP cells, and an Eagle Force motor. Because of cramped battery space, that battery is your best option, and the high quality motor will mean that you get a big increase in ROF. Beyond that, upgrades are exactly the same as for any other gun... search, there are dozens of threads asking the same questions.

Treadstone71 · November 16th, 2005, 13:12

Uphrades or Upgardes is a typo. "Uprages" didn't make any sense.

Put an eg1000 motor in, but without a longer inner barrel, anything above a pdi 120% is a waste of battery power. The extra power won't make a lick of difference with the short barrel that the k comes stock with.

Hedonism Bot · November 16th, 2005, 13:17

Thanks, the short barrel doesnt really concern me too much as this will be a CQB only weapon and will never see use in an outdoor game.

Ideally I'd like to shoot with an ROF similar to my GBB glock 23f and fire between 280 - 300 fps.

I've read good things about the accuracy and performance you get from the short barrel so I think thats one aspect I'll keep stock.

Sniper Steve · November 16th, 2005, 13:31

Well if you want your gun to shoot at about 280-300 fps then a PDI 150% spring is overkill. That spring will give you about 350fps. However, from what I have heard PDI springs are not any good any more and are very inconsistent. By inconsistent I mean PDI 150% springs shooting over 400fps. A M90 spring will give yo about 290 fps just like a stock TM AEG.

Avenging Angel · November 16th, 2005, 13:42

If your only going to be using this as an indoor gun, don't even bother upgrading the spring until you know your local indoor FPS limits. I'm pretty sure that it's about 300fps at most places. You'd be smart to confirm that though. If the limit is 300 then you can't really upgrade the spring because that will take it over the legal limit. And before you upgrade the motor, check with your local clubs as well. Here in Calgary, there are very few clubs that allow full auto shooting indoors. There’s no point in putting in a new motor if you can never use it to its potential. Sure, there will be a slightly faster response time from the trigger pull to actual shot that comes out of the barrel but realistically, it's not something (that I've personally found) that will save you in a game.

As was suggested, buy the 1100mAh battery. I own a couple and they are great! After that, I'd just spend the money on generic upgrades such as a scope mount and a red dot sight. Maybe a metal body and a rail system of some description. If you really want to do internals, I'd recommend going with high-speed gears (and appropriate furniture) along with a silent piston and piston head. Add some dynamat to the gear box after that and you'll have a very quiet gun

If you ever do decide to go outdoors with this particular gun then, you need to take a different approach.

Tom_Keeler · November 16th, 2005, 13:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Treadstone71

Uphrades or Upgardes is a typo. "Uprages" didn't make any sense.

Put an eg1000 motor in, but without a longer inner barrel, anything above a pdi 120% is a waste of battery power. The extra power won't make a lick of difference with the short barrel that the k comes stock with.

If you have an older keyboard, occasionally it needs a bit more force to hit down certain keys. I know it always used to happen to me, on my old computer.

Tom

Hedonism Bot · November 16th, 2005, 13:49

The field I will be using it at has a 350 limit and allows full auto.

Avenging Angel · November 16th, 2005, 14:29

Okay, then continue with the motor as planned but, as stated earlier, a 150% won't do you much good unless your a spray and prey type player. With the stock barrel in the MP5K the BB won't have enough time to stabilize in the barrel and I would guess that you will be sacrificing accuracy but, if you’re not concerned about that then there’s no worries. If you want to keep the accuracy somewhat in tact then, as was suggested earlier, go with a 120% spring.

The other option is to add on a small silencer and hide a 6.04mm barrel inside of it. That way, you could easily get away with the 150% that you want and still maintain the accuracy. However, you obviously sacrifice the short length of the gun.

It boils down to what you want to get out of the gun do you want range, power or accuracy? In my experience, you can pretty much only get two of those previous options at a single time. The successful modding of any gun seems to be in how you balance out all of the attributes.

Trader rating · November 16th, 2005, 21:34

EG1000
hispeed gears
batterybag with 3300mah 9.6v

can you say ROF!

mcguyver · November 16th, 2005, 22:31

keep it stock and it will last a long time.8.4v 1100 mah nimh battery is the biggest you can put in without removing the charging handle entirely. you can cut some of it away but there won't really be much of it left so you're best to just remove it. if you want higher velocity, mp5k is NOT the gun to do it with. get a different mp5. small battery means not alot of play time if you upgrade the spring. do those kinds of upgrades with a gun that CAN use a bigger battery.

HGI · November 16th, 2005, 23:43

You should do what I did to my GF's MP5K.... Works great and is a kick ass gun.

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthr...highlight=MP5k

I down owen the glock or that m4 anymore but my GF still has that MP5K PDW

Hedonism Bot · November 16th, 2005, 23:59

I don't want the gun to end up looking over done.

I have no plans to put an extended barrel on it, I'll give up accuracy in favour of compact size.

The most I would consider doing is a PDW stock so that I can add a second battery.

Like so:

http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/?filn...ck/k_stock.htm

My goal for this gun is for it to be a powerful, high ROF spray and pray CQB gun.

I plan to fire it one handed half-the time.

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November 16th, 2005, 13:02	#1
Hedonism Bot Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ontario	Opinions on upgrades for new TM MP5K I've searched the archives and have found some rough ideas. I was wondering if someone could offer some input on things I may be over looking. In upgrading the power of the gun I dont want to compromise it's durability. Can you please add to the below list items that should be added and their approximate cost? So far I know I'm adding an eg 1000 motor and a PDI 150% spring. I know I should add a larger battery but I don't want to add a Stock to hide it in or file down the cocking lever to make more room. Would it really make the gun suffer if I left the small stick battery stock and just bought 2 spares to swap out? Any tips? Thanks,

November 16th, 2005, 13:07	#2
Treadstone71 Ain't gay, but $20 is $20 Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Downtown Toronto	Uprages? __________________ Remember kids, go down the road, not across the street! Here's a sharp knife, have fun!

November 16th, 2005, 13:11	#4
Mantelope Scotty aka harleyb Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Toronto, Ontario	I would strongly recommend getting an 1100mAh battery made from GP cells, and an Eagle Force motor. Because of cramped battery space, that battery is your best option, and the high quality motor will mean that you get a big increase in ROF. Beyond that, upgrades are exactly the same as for any other gun... search, there are dozens of threads asking the same questions. __________________

November 16th, 2005, 13:09	#3
Hedonism Bot Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ontario	I thought making fun of terrible spellers was looked down upon here. The sad part is that english is my first and only language. I did however just get off a night shift and am sleep deprieved.

November 16th, 2005, 13:12	#5
Treadstone71 Ain't gay, but $20 is $20 Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Downtown Toronto	Uphrades or Upgardes is a typo. "Uprages" didn't make any sense. Put an eg1000 motor in, but without a longer inner barrel, anything above a pdi 120% is a waste of battery power. The extra power won't make a lick of difference with the short barrel that the k comes stock with. __________________ Remember kids, go down the road, not across the street! Here's a sharp knife, have fun!

November 16th, 2005, 13:17	#6
Hedonism Bot Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ontario	Thanks, the short barrel doesnt really concern me too much as this will be a CQB only weapon and will never see use in an outdoor game. Ideally I'd like to shoot with an ROF similar to my GBB glock 23f and fire between 280 - 300 fps. I've read good things about the accuracy and performance you get from the short barrel so I think thats one aspect I'll keep stock.

November 16th, 2005, 13:31	#7
Sniper Steve Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Gagetown	Well if you want your gun to shoot at about 280-300 fps then a PDI 150% spring is overkill. That spring will give you about 350fps. However, from what I have heard PDI springs are not any good any more and are very inconsistent. By inconsistent I mean PDI 150% springs shooting over 400fps. A M90 spring will give yo about 290 fps just like a stock TM AEG.

November 16th, 2005, 13:42	#8
Avenging Angel Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Calgary, AB	If your only going to be using this as an indoor gun, don't even bother upgrading the spring until you know your local indoor FPS limits. I'm pretty sure that it's about 300fps at most places. You'd be smart to confirm that though. If the limit is 300 then you can't really upgrade the spring because that will take it over the legal limit. And before you upgrade the motor, check with your local clubs as well. Here in Calgary, there are very few clubs that allow full auto shooting indoors. There’s no point in putting in a new motor if you can never use it to its potential. Sure, there will be a slightly faster response time from the trigger pull to actual shot that comes out of the barrel but realistically, it's not something (that I've personally found) that will save you in a game. As was suggested, buy the 1100mAh battery. I own a couple and they are great! After that, I'd just spend the money on generic upgrades such as a scope mount and a red dot sight. Maybe a metal body and a rail system of some description. If you really want to do internals, I'd recommend going with high-speed gears (and appropriate furniture) along with a silent piston and piston head. Add some dynamat to the gear box after that and you'll have a very quiet gun If you ever do decide to go outdoors with this particular gun then, you need to take a different approach.

November 16th, 2005, 13:49	#10
Hedonism Bot Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ontario	The field I will be using it at has a 350 limit and allows full auto.

November 16th, 2005, 14:29	#11
Avenging Angel Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Calgary, AB	Okay, then continue with the motor as planned but, as stated earlier, a 150% won't do you much good unless your a spray and prey type player. With the stock barrel in the MP5K the BB won't have enough time to stabilize in the barrel and I would guess that you will be sacrificing accuracy but, if you’re not concerned about that then there’s no worries. If you want to keep the accuracy somewhat in tact then, as was suggested earlier, go with a 120% spring. The other option is to add on a small silencer and hide a 6.04mm barrel inside of it. That way, you could easily get away with the 150% that you want and still maintain the accuracy. However, you obviously sacrifice the short length of the gun. It boils down to what you want to get out of the gun do you want range, power or accuracy? In my experience, you can pretty much only get two of those previous options at a single time. The successful modding of any gun seems to be in how you balance out all of the attributes.

November 16th, 2005, 21:34	#12
Droc Guest Trader rating	EG1000 hispeed gears batterybag with 3300mah 9.6v can you say ROF!

November 16th, 2005, 22:31	#13
mcguyver Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Northern Alberta	keep it stock and it will last a long time.8.4v 1100 mah nimh battery is the biggest you can put in without removing the charging handle entirely. you can cut some of it away but there won't really be much of it left so you're best to just remove it. if you want higher velocity, mp5k is NOT the gun to do it with. get a different mp5. small battery means not alot of play time if you upgrade the spring. do those kinds of upgrades with a gun that CAN use a bigger battery.

November 16th, 2005, 23:59	#15
Hedonism Bot Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ontario	I don't want the gun to end up looking over done. I have no plans to put an extended barrel on it, I'll give up accuracy in favour of compact size. The most I would consider doing is a PDW stock so that I can add a second battery. Like so: http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/?filn...ck/k_stock.htm My goal for this gun is for it to be a powerful, high ROF spray and pray CQB gun. I plan to fire it one handed half-the time.

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