Need an RHOP?

AlecBeach · July 22nd, 2018, 17:48

I have a few guns that I am ready to upgrade, and I'm just wondering. I've heard both sides of the rhop argument, and is it worth it? When do I rhop a gun, and when don't I?

ThunderCactus · July 24th, 2018, 00:03

You rhop a gun when you want it to shoot 300ft.
You flat hop a gun if you can't afford the $45-$60 to Rhop it

There's no reason not to do it

Wilkie · July 24th, 2018, 00:12

I was going to say, not really a multi sided thing. No reason not to. I know I’ll never go back.

I got Zim to do mine, I believe ThunderCactus you offer the service as well?

ThunderCactus · July 24th, 2018, 15:35

Started offering it again, seems a bunch of people were doing it and suddenly are not anymore. Coupled with some people charging outrageous prices for mediocre work...

MaxtheNinja · July 29th, 2018, 16:53

My local tech says that unless you're using .36g or higher an rhop is a waste.

APOModern · July 29th, 2018, 19:52

No point unless you are running .35's and above

shelcoof · July 30th, 2018, 00:31

Works great on 0.30g
Would not recommend anything lower

Ricochet · July 30th, 2018, 00:45

There’s a few different hop methods out there that work well depending on the gun type. The R-hop works well on 95% of guns and the ones it doesn’t is because their design requires a different approach. You likely have a gun that’ll effectively use it. A proper R-hop is certainly the way to go, though only some techs do it totally right. There is no reason not to do one and the hop and B.B. quality weight are your immediate go-to’s with any gun you wish to increase performance with. It’s not expensive and will help with performance if done correctly, period. Get it done. If you have the cash, buy a quality barrel as well, 6.04 or 6.03.

Zfurlong · August 2nd, 2018, 07:05

i have an rhop in my otherwise stock ak (a used rhop at that, done by zim) and i have a flathop in my p* m4. my ak gets tighter groupings more consistently, and i know where the bb will be in correlation to my crosshair at various ranges due to the consistency. the p* on the other hand outranges it (based on muzzle energy alone) however its not nearly as consistent. the difference in groupings at range is night and day. not bashing on the flathop, as it is signifficantly better than the stock setup in the vast majority of cases, but if money is no option, then rhop is the way to go.

Drakker · August 2nd, 2018, 08:00

This might simply be due to the inherent superiority of AKs in the airsoft world. M4/armalites are harder to make accurate because there's so many parts that interface together, causing more wobble everywhere. AKs are built in a different way and are more "stable." It's not that you can't make an armalite more accurate than an AK, its just more work to do so. So for the same amount of work put on an AK and an armalite, you should normally see exactly what you report here.

pestobanana · August 2nd, 2018, 18:37

Techs that say R Hop is not worth it are just techs that suck at R Hopping. If you are paying someone to do it, wait until you have a quality barrel because it is non transferable.

RainyEyes · August 2nd, 2018, 18:46

Fixed hop up peasant reporting in.

Anyone have recommendations on improving the distance and spread of a shotgun?

R.I.T.Z · August 2nd, 2018, 18:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by RainyEyes

Fixed hop up peasant reporting in.

Anyone have recommendations on improving the distance and spread of a shotgun?

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MaxtheNinja · August 11th, 2018, 16:21

actually, I have one bad thing to say about rhopping. My local tech doesn't rhop the standard way and his rhopps aren't adjustable for bb wieght. So it locks you down into one weight.
Other than that it's a great addition to any gun. Before I moved here I had my 416 rhopped and it performs great. Idk if it's any better than a flat hop (I'm using .3's) but it will not ever break and flat hopps might wear down.

APOModern · August 11th, 2018, 16:27

I would have someone do it for you before you learn to yourself. Run heavy ammo and you won't regret it. Lowest I ran was .32s and it was just fine. Just don't run .25s. Not a whole lot to it.

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July 22nd, 2018, 17:48	#1
AlecBeach Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2018	Need an RHOP? I have a few guns that I am ready to upgrade, and I'm just wondering. I've heard both sides of the rhop argument, and is it worth it? When do I rhop a gun, and when don't I?

July 30th, 2018, 00:45	#8
Ricochet How much sand CAN you fit in your vagina!? Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: North Delta, BC (Greater Vancouver)	There’s a few different hop methods out there that work well depending on the gun type. The R-hop works well on 95% of guns and the ones it doesn’t is because their design requires a different approach. You likely have a gun that’ll effectively use it. A proper R-hop is certainly the way to go, though only some techs do it totally right. There is no reason not to do one and the hop and B.B. quality weight are your immediate go-to’s with any gun you wish to increase performance with. It’s not expensive and will help with performance if done correctly, period. Get it done. If you have the cash, buy a quality barrel as well, 6.04 or 6.03. __________________ I have developed a new sport called Airhard. Pretty much the same as Airsoft, except you have to maintain an erection...

August 2nd, 2018, 07:05	#9
Zfurlong Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Oromocto	i have an rhop in my otherwise stock ak (a used rhop at that, done by zim) and i have a flathop in my p* m4. my ak gets tighter groupings more consistently, and i know where the bb will be in correlation to my crosshair at various ranges due to the consistency. the p* on the other hand outranges it (based on muzzle energy alone) however its not nearly as consistent. the difference in groupings at range is night and day. not bashing on the flathop, as it is signifficantly better than the stock setup in the vast majority of cases, but if money is no option, then rhop is the way to go. __________________ current armament: mk43, ump.45, p90, barret, m14, g33, k98, m4 tac, m4 swat, mp5 navy, vsr10, p226, m9.

July 24th, 2018, 00:03	#2
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	You rhop a gun when you want it to shoot 300ft. You flat hop a gun if you can't afford the $45-$60 to Rhop it There's no reason not to do it

July 24th, 2018, 00:12	#3
Wilkie Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Brandon, Mb	I was going to say, not really a multi sided thing. No reason not to. I know I’ll never go back. I got Zim to do mine, I believe ThunderCactus you offer the service as well?

July 24th, 2018, 15:35	#4
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	Started offering it again, seems a bunch of people were doing it and suddenly are not anymore. Coupled with some people charging outrageous prices for mediocre work...

July 29th, 2018, 16:53	#5
MaxtheNinja Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2018	My local tech says that unless you're using .36g or higher an rhop is a waste.

July 29th, 2018, 19:52	#6
APOModern Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2018	No point unless you are running .35's and above

July 30th, 2018, 00:31	#7
shelcoof Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2011	Works great on 0.30g Would not recommend anything lower

August 2nd, 2018, 08:00	#10
Drakker Official ASC Geomorphologist Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Montr?al south shore, Qc	This might simply be due to the inherent superiority of AKs in the airsoft world. M4/armalites are harder to make accurate because there's so many parts that interface together, causing more wobble everywhere. AKs are built in a different way and are more "stable." It's not that you can't make an armalite more accurate than an AK, its just more work to do so. So for the same amount of work put on an AK and an armalite, you should normally see exactly what you report here. __________________ Keep quiet. Sound travels faster than BBs. Québec province's master age verification representative.

August 2nd, 2018, 18:37	#11
pestobanana Squid Porn Superstar, I love the tentacles! Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Richmond Hill and Waterloo, Ontario	Techs that say R Hop is not worth it are just techs that suck at R Hopping. If you are paying someone to do it, wait until you have a quality barrel because it is non transferable.

August 2nd, 2018, 18:46	#12
RainyEyes Trader rating Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Scarbororororough	Fixed hop up peasant reporting in. Anyone have recommendations on improving the distance and spread of a shotgun?

August 11th, 2018, 16:21	#14
MaxtheNinja Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2018	actually, I have one bad thing to say about rhopping. My local tech doesn't rhop the standard way and his rhopps aren't adjustable for bb wieght. So it locks you down into one weight. Other than that it's a great addition to any gun. Before I moved here I had my 416 rhopped and it performs great. Idk if it's any better than a flat hop (I'm using .3's) but it will not ever break and flat hopps might wear down.

August 11th, 2018, 16:27	#15
APOModern Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2018	I would have someone do it for you before you learn to yourself. Run heavy ammo and you won't regret it. Lowest I ran was .32s and it was just fine. Just don't run .25s. Not a whole lot to it.

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