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September 1st, 2006, 20:45
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Designated Marksmen/Counter-Sniper AEG advice
I started with a CA M15A4 CQB.
It been a great gun for me so far and has gotten me into airsoft in a big way. I have always had a particular interest with counter-snipers and designated marksman. Lots of material and tactics on that from the old Soviet Union; their snipers were part of the squad and were used to extend the squads effective range, rather than lone wolf teams as in the west. I recently recieved a good deal on a full auto TM Glock18C AEP, giving me a nice backup, and this got me thinking about what kind of AEG would make a really good platform for a squad's counter-sniper/designated marksmen. Would love to hear suggestions; I've read some great reviews on the CAM15A4 Rifle: http://www.airsoftpacific.com/content.php?page=31 My idea so far: CAM15A4 Rifle (510mm) Tightbore (any suggestions for this platform?) slightly upgraded spring approx 375-400 fps* elcon sight (or similiar that has 1-4x magnification adjust) *here is my concern; how far do I want to go with the spring in terms of best trade-off between reliability and performance? And IF I wanted to go for superior performance, what modifications and reinforcement steps should I take to get a fairly reliable AEG that shoots 375-400 fps with .25 bb's? Or am I dreaming? Or should I start saving for a Systema? :!: |
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September 1st, 2006, 21:48
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well i read a actical in SWAT monthly about SDM and the US army hasen't picked a weapon YET.
personally i would use either a M14 or a G3-SG1 both are basicly snipers to start off with they have long barrels and large batteries. the only thing they need is a good scope mount and a 4 times power scope and your set. |
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September 2nd, 2006, 02:59
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September 2nd, 2006, 03:33
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I know this is real steel info but it will give ya some good ideas. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Designated_marksman
Personally I use an M14 for this type of job. When even lightly upgraded you get some good distance with it amd when you put a scope on it, it just looks pimpin. I cant wait till I get the rest of my parts in to create the Smith Enterprise M14SE "Crazy Horse" look for my M14 |
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September 2nd, 2006, 04:36
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September 2nd, 2006, 11:05
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well
i have a CA M15 with at fixed stock and a silencer on so i can have a bit longer barrel 470 mm. the setup is as follows G&P 7mm bearing Gearbox systema infinite torque gears systema new bore up set for M16 systema hop up unit with black guarder bucking Guarder blue half teeth piston systema bearing spring guide. guarder SP170 spring. Eagle force hummer 1300 motor 1,5 mm^2 wiring 12v GP 3700 mah battery Fixed stock for M16 Guarder mildot 32x4 currently it shoots an 0,2 ICS bb out with 185 m/s or 610 fps which gives me an engagement distance of around 80-90 meters with straight 0,36 bb which it fires with 125 m/s or 412 fps it works really nice and at 50-60 meters it is dead accurate. i can easily hit a torso with 1-2 shots no problem and at 40-50 meters it is possible to head shot some one consistently, and i still dont have a prometheus tight bore in it. check for other information on www.airsoftzone.dk www.aalborghardball.dk ffw.pgup.dk Best regards Lars Ringsted |
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September 3rd, 2006, 01:10
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what kind of M15?
A2/A4? Carbine/SPC? I'm liking this one.... G&P SPR/A Full Metal 380fps SKU # 10113 System : Electric Action : Semi / Full Gear Box : Version 2 Motor : EG700 Barrel : 510mm Capacity : 130 rds Length : 963mm Weight : 3375g Hop up : Ajustable Battery : 8.4V Large Price : 1100 CAD Features: Full metal construction with free float RAS system. Flip up front and rear sight, SPR type body and charging handle. SPR type flash hider, takes up to 9.6V large battery without modification. One piece metal out barrel, one piece metal hop up, reinforced 7mm gear box, upgraded spring, metal bushings, reinforced gear set. 4 x RIS covers included. |
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September 3rd, 2006, 10:03
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September 4th, 2006, 00:00
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Since a sniper rifle can be reasonably expected to not be launching bagloads of BBs, why would battery size be an issue? How many rounds is a sniper rifle going to be launching, anyway? |
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September 4th, 2006, 01:21
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In fact I would look at an 11.1V LiPo as a possibility. I know I've not been a fan of this battery chemistry due to it's relative immaturity and inherent risk, although for single shots where the amp draw will be very brief, I can't see a problem if using a high discharge model. This would provide an extremely fast shot with virtually no trigger lag but fit nearly anywhere, should one decide to go with a collapsible stock and a free float rail system for instance. Just make sure you remove the full auto contact from the selector plate... |
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September 4th, 2006, 01:26
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For that matter, why would a battery be necessary at all? What would be wrong with using a spring sniper rifle in sniper vs sniper?
Many folks have used M24, APS2, L96 in sniper roles. Counter-sniper duties for a sniper have been used for every war last century for good reason.
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September 4th, 2006, 01:39
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Fast followup shots, primarily. Most high end sniper rifles are upgraded with insane springs that nearly require the use of both hands to cock. Not only can that be difficult while comfortably prone with your rifle shouldered, it's liable to reveal your position from the movement. It also takes a while compared to an AEG where you can just squeeze the trigger again.
Some like the ability to go to full auto but I don't agree with that. You're either a sniper or an assaulter - pick one role and stick to it. If you really need firepower for when you're overrun, bring a spotter with a carbine or a backup gun. Besides which a properly done up sniper AEG could be dangerous on full auto with high velocities, not to mention breakage prone. |
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September 4th, 2006, 02:01
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I agree with Gryphons post. I have an APS2 that has a 300% spring (I bought it that way, not really gameable until I downgrade the spring) and it is a bitch to pull the bolt back. You almost have to prop the butt of the rifle on your thigh to get enough leverage to get it back (I admit it, I'm weak). On the other hand my M14 can be deadly accurate and I dont think I have ever used it on full auto except for the odd time when there is like 30 seconds left in a game and I feel like just hosing bb's
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September 4th, 2006, 19:07
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Well, I've got a M15A4 CQB wih 7mm bearing, a metal spring guide and have talked to honest john about getting an SPR RAS, tighbore barrel, a full stock and a stiffer spring for sniper duty.
I would like to know what kind of spring would give me an accurate shot to 40-50 meters with .25 bb's in semi-auto. I wont be using auto except for rare occasions where suppressive fire is needed at LONG RANGES only.... I'm using 8.4 v 3300 mAh and would like to know the best compromise between performance and reliability for selecting a spring for his AEG. I think the ras I'm looking at is this SR-25 from CA: http://www.classicarmy.com/news.jsp# However there is m15 rifle Fibre handguard that looks alot like an SPR mod 1 anyone have experience with SPR mod 0 and mod 1 ras? |
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