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Old January 30th, 2007, 14:51   #1
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SAS CT CQB loadout

I put together this loadout from bits and pieces I've been able to research from various accounts, pictures, reports etc that have been published on the SAS in recent history. As well as throwing in the occasional personal touch to make it more effective for airsoft.

Fullbody overalls in Dark Blue (1970's pattern)
Combat Boots
S10 Respirator (Modified with balistic lenses)
Filter (Kept for appearance gutted to ease breathing)
Fullhead hood (NBC styled hood, designed to keep gas off your head or in our case BB's)
Medium Weight Gloves (High dexterity, protection against knuckle busters)
Ops wastecoat AKA LBV (Black South African style, for radio and grenade storage)
1950's era pistol belt (Metal clasp, every plastic clasp I've every used has been shot at and broken)
Blackhawk Drop leg pistol holster in OD (Stolen from my outdoor kit)
DPM waste pouch (Temporary Dump pouch solution)

Weapons
H&K MP5A5 w/ Tactical Light
3 Point Sling
Sig Sauer P228

Optional Kit
Radio with Headset
Frag and Stun grenades (SWORD pattern)


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Geocities sucks but:
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http://www.geocities.com/darkalman/DSCF1941.JPG

Shame Xtreme-tactics makes us wear those stupid helmets.
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Old January 30th, 2007, 15:07   #2
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I believe that they recently purchased a bunch of MP7s.

Seems like we've been looking at the same pics
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Old January 30th, 2007, 16:34   #3
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I wouldn't be surprised if they purchased a number of HK UMP's as well.

The smaller caliber MP7 is ideal for cutting through body armor but it has little stopping power.

The 45 cal UMP makes an ideal support weapon.
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Old January 30th, 2007, 16:42   #4
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I wouldn't be surprised if they purchased a number of HK UMP's as well.

The smaller caliber MP7 is ideal for cutting through body armor but it has little stopping power.

The 45 cal UMP makes an ideal support weapon.
Fuck yeah.

Running .45ACP +P rounds? Yeah, definately a death-dealin' machine. However, I don't think they'll switch to a large caliber weapon like that, cause let's face it.. it's an expensive cartridge, and it requires bulky magazines. 4.7mm is cheap as dirt.
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Old January 30th, 2007, 16:52   #5
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It READS pretty good, got a picture man? SAS CT kids are awesome when done right, and it seems like yours is pretty good, but then I'm not an Brit kit expert, just admire the kit
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Old January 30th, 2007, 16:55   #6
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Fuck yeah.

Running .45ACP +P rounds? Yeah, definately a death-dealin' machine. However, I don't think they'll switch to a large caliber weapon like that, cause let's face it.. it's an expensive cartridge, and it requires bulky magazines. 4.7mm is cheap as dirt.
Hard as fuck to control too, with a smaller magazine capacity. The Mp7 is sex.
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Old January 30th, 2007, 16:56   #7
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Running .45ACP +P rounds? Yeah, definately a death-dealin' machine. However, I don't think they'll switch to a large caliber weapon like that, cause let's face it.. it's an expensive cartridge, and it requires bulky magazines. 4.7mm is cheap as dirt.
Money has never been an issue for the SAS. Their preference has always been rate of fire and acuracy. Hence the MP5.

The UMP .45 makes a good support weapon, the extra firepower is ideal for punching through thick walls if need be. But it's not their style to just go in blindly and start shooting up a building.
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Old January 30th, 2007, 17:00   #8
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Hard as fuck to control too, with a smaller magazine capacity. The Mp7 is sex.
yeah, hahah. But it sure vaporizes... ^_^

Mp7 is the sex. I don't like the extended mags, though.
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Old January 30th, 2007, 18:21   #9
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The lower velocity of the ump's .45 acp works very well for hostage situations when over penetration is unacceptable. Also the mag capacity is only 5 less than a standard mp5 mag, and it if you considder that with .45 you may only need two rounds, where as you may require three or more with 9mm, its reasonable. The only real downside is that all the polymers used to keep the weight low means that the gun will not soak up recoil as much. The integril rail is nice though.
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Old January 30th, 2007, 22:34   #10
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I put together this loadout from bits and pieces I've been able to research from various accounts, pictures, reports etc that have been published on the SAS in recent history. As well as throwing in the occasional personal touch to make it more effective for airsoft.

Fullbody overalls in Dark Blue (1970's pattern)
Combat Boots
S10 Respirator (Modified with balistic lenses)
Filter (Kept for appearance gutted to ease breathing)
Fullhead hood (NBC styled hood, designed to keep gas off your head or in our case BB's)
Medium Weight Gloves (High dexterity, protection against knuckle busters)
Ops wastecoat AKA LBV (Black South African style, for radio and grenade storage)
1950's era pistol belt (Metal clasp, every plastic clasp I've every used has been shot at and broken)
Blackhawk Drop leg pistol holster in OD (Stolen from my outdoor kit)
DPM waste pouch (Temporary Dump pouch solution)

Weapons
H&K MP5A5 w/ Tactical Light
3 Point Sling
Sig Sauer P228

Optional Kit
Radio with Headset
Frag and Stun grenades (SWORD pattern)


Questions/Comments?

Pictures forth coming.
A few notes. It seems your list is based off of SAS: Survival Secrets. They didnt do the greatest job on kit for cqb in that show. The SAS dont wear the SAAV style assualt vests, they have custom made vests.

Also, belt, they use black leather duty rig belts with custom made holsters. Both the belts and holsters are made by Paul Evans/Holsters International in the UK. The belt is their Model 47 gun belt, 2-1/4" wide, buckleless. The holster is their Mod 4A or Mod 10A tactical holster, the mod 10A is the swivel version of the 4A, the SAS have been known to use both. Holsters International is now owned by this company http://www.pwluk.com/index.php

There are more photos and more info on SAS gear at militarymorons.com under 1st line rigs, and at specwargear.
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Old January 31st, 2007, 00:36   #11
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It seems your list is based off of SAS: Survival Secrets
I'll admit to heavy influence.

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The SAS dont wear the SAAV style assualt vests, they have custom made vests.
If you watched the series you'll note that they change the type of vest they wear about 3-4 times during the course of a single episode. I found that fishy, especially since I've worn one of those vest previously and I know it next to useless.
That's the trouble with replicating such a specialized unit. You can only go so far. I use the closest things I can find.


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Also, belt, they use black leather duty rig belts with custom made holsters.
I had actually noticed that. My choice of holster is purely functional as I intend to use it outdoors/indoors atm. That pistol belt is what I had lying around. But its worth checking out, thanks.



I had a chance to purchase a black set of UK body armor on ebay a while back without the plates, I should have grabbed it
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Old February 10th, 2007, 19:08   #12
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pics damnit!
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Old February 11th, 2007, 04:07   #13
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absolutely, need some pics dude.
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Old February 11th, 2007, 18:55   #14
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this thread is boring without pics!
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Old February 11th, 2007, 20:29   #15
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