KJ WORKS p226 many questions

Mr.Planters · February 5th, 2007, 21:55

Well I am very happy to say this is my first post.As I just bought the sig p226from KJW.I have so more money so I would ike to know if there is any upgrade I should really buy.I learned that the loading muzzle breaks easely,what should I do or buy to prevent it from breaking down.As for the accuracy,I want the very best,what should I do or buy so it could be better.Also I noticed there are not many upgrades or parts for the KJW model.I always liked the silenced-killer kind of look.So what outer barre should I buy so a good looking silencer could fit...does a TM -226 barrel fit?
also...does a TM inner barrel fit in the KJW version..if yes what bore size would you rather take.

and btw...of there is any upgrades you would advise me to take...please post them along with a picture and a link...

this is what i bougt:
a KJW sig p226 full metal
a KJW sig p226 full metal mag
a blackhawk carbon fiber molded holster
a blackhawk carbon fiber mag pouch
a bag of 4000 bb's
and a can of green gas

thanks and by the way...nice to officialy post for the very first time

Mr.Planters

android1331 · May 8th, 2009, 15:43

Hi Bud.

I got myself a KJW 226 aswell. Just ordered the threaded barrel and a suppressor for it. the TM 226 and KJW 226 are 99% alike. Basically same replacement parts.

The TM threaded barrel will work for your sig. Yes it is a great looking gun with a suppressor, probably the best looking pistol to have one.

Cheers!

Crunchmeister · May 8th, 2009, 15:58

Android - take a look at the last post date before replying. You're reviving a 2+ year old thread to reply to a user that's been banned...

Not flaming you, but just giving you friendly advice here on necroposts.

DarkAngel · May 8th, 2009, 16:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by android1331

Hi Bud.

I got myself a KJW 226 aswell. Just ordered the threaded barrel and a suppressor for it. the TM 226 and KJW 226 are 99% alike. Basically same replacement parts.

The TM threaded barrel will work for your sig. Yes it is a great looking gun with a suppressor, probably the best looking pistol to have one.

Cheers!

Just wanted to point out so people who read this dont get confused.

TM and KJW parts are NOT 99% alike. Most functioning parts are not compatable. Mags are NOT compatable as well (TM will not work in KJW but KJW will work in TM) Some parts are compatable, But the majority of parts are NOT. Dont want to bust your balls but its better than having a bunch of people get the wrong parts for the wrong gun.

otacon1001 · May 10th, 2009, 00:53

Do you know if the outer barrel can be replaced on the KJW P226 with the TM one ?

Thenooblord · May 10th, 2009, 01:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkAngel

Just wanted to point out so people who read this dont get confused.

TM and KJW parts are NOT 99% alike. Most functioning parts are not compatable. Mags are NOT compatable as well (TM will not work in KJW but KJW will work in TM) Some parts are compatable, But the majority of parts are NOT. Dont want to bust your balls but its better than having a bunch of people get the wrong parts for the wrong gun.

i use TM mags in my KJW KP-05...as well as a TM hammer and sear connector

DarkAngel · May 10th, 2009, 03:32

Ive tried my TM mags in multiple KJW's. I own a TM 226 and two of my teammates both own KJW's. All 4 of my TM Mags will not properly function in any KJW. Yours must be an exception because there are countless threads on the board including ASC's archives where these flaws were discussed to death.

As for the Outer Barrel, I dont know. And I would rather not say yes or no unless i know for 100% sure. I just want it to be clear to many people that TM and KJW are not identical and people should understand that if you are replacing your KJW with TM Parts or vice versa that there is a very good chance you will run into incompatabilities. I do not recommend this at all. I DO know however that there is a frame size difference between the KJW and the TM. KJW's frame seems to be a little bit thinner in width (very slight amount) which is why the KJW's have mag eject issues sometimes with TM mags and they get stuck in the magwell unless pulled out with a small degree of force.

Im not trying to shit on Android's post but I do not want people to make poor descisions based off improper information.

dpvu · May 10th, 2009, 03:48

I believe KJW made 2 versions. One can use TM mags, the other cannot. I don't recall which came first (probably the one that can't use TM mags) or how to tell the difference without trying.

DarkAngel · May 10th, 2009, 03:59

KJW made a limited run of Licenced branding 226's for Sig Saur with full trades.
If thats what your referring to as the 2nd version, Its not really widespread enough to base a claim for all KJW's. I know quite a few of these got into canada since Mopic carried quite a few of these back when he was first selling.

I do know KJW did however make two versions of mainstream mags. The KJW One peice mags are a step up since all TM 226 Mags are two peices. And overfilling the Mag with rounds will force the two peices apart causing the gas resevoir to gush out. (Why TM would make a two peice resevoir to hold gas is beyond me). But TM still has the better valves as they are double flow valves which protect your mags in the case of overpressure. KJW's are single flow, which means they will continue to accept gas beyond its storage capabilities which can damage the seals.

However that being said. If there is a second version from KJW (that isnt the sig branded) that was released without my knowledge, then I may be mistaken from my claims. But every KJW and TM that has passed through my hands, whether from teammates or other players (some who have bought guns as recent as 6 months ago) as been incompatable and have had severe issues with mixing and matching parts and that number ranks in the dozens.

tacdriver22mk2 · June 8th, 2009, 12:31

i have the kjw p226 and the marui outer barrel goes in but there is a lot of space inbetween the barrel and slide

SHÖCK · June 8th, 2009, 12:48

The outer barrel is mechanically simple. I have swapped them between TM, KJ, and other brands that are TM compatible easily.

I can use KJW 226 mags in a TM 226. The other way around - they are a tight fit but ultimately do work. The KJ frame is just tighter around the mag and the clearances are a bit different. They can be modified to work but not worth the effort, just buy the KJW 1 piece mags. The reason that TM has 2-piece mags is that they were originally designed for lower pressure duster and not greengas/propane. KJW can take much more pressure but I would recommend swapping the o-rings. I have done this to my KJW mags since the ones from factory are seemingly badly chosen, they are the wrong gauge. I put thicker ones in there and it improved performance and stopped all leaking issues completely - even if i leave the mags unoiled and unfilled with gas for weeks.

Buy the VFC threaded barrel because the threads can separate from the actual outer barrel. That way you can leave the threaded part on the silencer so that when you take it off, the gun looks flat and doesn't have a part sticking out of it - sort of like the silencers you see in movies.

JohnnyDelRay · November 23rd, 2009, 22:45

hey guys, i'm somewhat new to airsofting, (revived hobby from early-mid 90's) anyways just joined the forum coz it seems like people here really know what they're on about.

Sorry to revive this old thread, but i always think it's good to keep information in the one place. Since my question is about KJW P226 mags:

I have just bought one a month ago, loving the damn thing, but i noticed i got the one-piece mag. So this is noticeably better than a two-piece, but i wanted to ask SHöCK: should i still open up and change/thicken up the O-ring? How do i open up the one-piece? there doesn't seem to be a hex key thing at the bottom? Also thinking of performing the shim upgrade, just can't figure out how to get the bugger open...

because of the varying pressures inside and out, i hear that these are a bit scary to overfill so at the most i give it 3-4 seconds, which is slightly over one mag of shooting (abt 25 rounds). It is pretty warm where i live but thats not much...

Any help would be *greatly* appreciated, sorry for long post! Actually all i was asking is should i still perform maintenance on the 1-piece mag, it doesn't seem to be openable

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February 5th, 2007, 21:55	#1
Mr.Planters Banned Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Montreal	KJ WORKS p226 many questions Well I am very happy to say this is my first post.As I just bought the sig p226from KJW.I have so more money so I would ike to know if there is any upgrade I should really buy.I learned that the loading muzzle breaks easely,what should I do or buy to prevent it from breaking down.As for the accuracy,I want the very best,what should I do or buy so it could be better.Also I noticed there are not many upgrades or parts for the KJW model.I always liked the silenced-killer kind of look.So what outer barre should I buy so a good looking silencer could fit...does a TM -226 barrel fit? also...does a TM inner barrel fit in the KJW version..if yes what bore size would you rather take. and btw...of there is any upgrades you would advise me to take...please post them along with a picture and a link... this is what i bougt: a KJW sig p226 full metal a KJW sig p226 full metal mag a blackhawk carbon fiber molded holster a blackhawk carbon fiber mag pouch a bag of 4000 bb's and a can of green gas thanks and by the way...nice to officialy post for the very first time Mr.Planters

May 8th, 2009, 15:43	#2
android1331 Trader rating Join Date: May 2009 Location: Barrie Ontario	Hi there Hi Bud. I got myself a KJW 226 aswell. Just ordered the threaded barrel and a suppressor for it. the TM 226 and KJW 226 are 99% alike. Basically same replacement parts. The TM threaded barrel will work for your sig. Yes it is a great looking gun with a suppressor, probably the best looking pistol to have one. Cheers!

May 8th, 2009, 15:58	#3
Crunchmeister Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: In your bedroom going though your underwear drawer	Android - take a look at the last post date before replying. You're reviving a 2+ year old thread to reply to a user that's been banned... Not flaming you, but just giving you friendly advice here on necroposts. __________________

May 10th, 2009, 00:53	#5
otacon1001 Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Saint John, NB	Do you know if the outer barrel can be replaced on the KJW P226 with the TM one ?

May 10th, 2009, 03:32	#7
DarkAngel * Age Verifier status suspended * Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Scarborough	Ive tried my TM mags in multiple KJW's. I own a TM 226 and two of my teammates both own KJW's. All 4 of my TM Mags will not properly function in any KJW. Yours must be an exception because there are countless threads on the board including ASC's archives where these flaws were discussed to death. As for the Outer Barrel, I dont know. And I would rather not say yes or no unless i know for 100% sure. I just want it to be clear to many people that TM and KJW are not identical and people should understand that if you are replacing your KJW with TM Parts or vice versa that there is a very good chance you will run into incompatabilities. I do not recommend this at all. I DO know however that there is a frame size difference between the KJW and the TM. KJW's frame seems to be a little bit thinner in width (very slight amount) which is why the KJW's have mag eject issues sometimes with TM mags and they get stuck in the magwell unless pulled out with a small degree of force. Im not trying to shit on Android's post but I do not want people to make poor descisions based off improper information. __________________ Certified Sniper Clinic Instructor and Counter Sniper Sentinel Arms Customs - Specializing In Unique, One of a kind guns Last edited by DarkAngel; May 10th, 2009 at 03:37..

May 10th, 2009, 03:48	#8
dpvu Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Calgary	I believe KJW made 2 versions. One can use TM mags, the other cannot. I don't recall which came first (probably the one that can't use TM mags) or how to tell the difference without trying. __________________ JG HK416 KWA USP

May 10th, 2009, 03:59	#9
DarkAngel * Age Verifier status suspended * Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Scarborough	KJW made a limited run of Licenced branding 226's for Sig Saur with full trades. If thats what your referring to as the 2nd version, Its not really widespread enough to base a claim for all KJW's. I know quite a few of these got into canada since Mopic carried quite a few of these back when he was first selling. I do know KJW did however make two versions of mainstream mags. The KJW One peice mags are a step up since all TM 226 Mags are two peices. And overfilling the Mag with rounds will force the two peices apart causing the gas resevoir to gush out. (Why TM would make a two peice resevoir to hold gas is beyond me). But TM still has the better valves as they are double flow valves which protect your mags in the case of overpressure. KJW's are single flow, which means they will continue to accept gas beyond its storage capabilities which can damage the seals. However that being said. If there is a second version from KJW (that isnt the sig branded) that was released without my knowledge, then I may be mistaken from my claims. But every KJW and TM that has passed through my hands, whether from teammates or other players (some who have bought guns as recent as 6 months ago) as been incompatable and have had severe issues with mixing and matching parts and that number ranks in the dozens. __________________ Certified Sniper Clinic Instructor and Counter Sniper Sentinel Arms Customs - Specializing In Unique, One of a kind guns Last edited by DarkAngel; May 10th, 2009 at 04:09..

June 8th, 2009, 12:31	#10
tacdriver22mk2 Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2008	i have the kjw p226 and the marui outer barrel goes in but there is a lot of space inbetween the barrel and slide

June 8th, 2009, 12:48	#11
SHÖCK aka SNK or Shaniqua Trader rating Join Date: May 2008 Location: Calgary, AB	The outer barrel is mechanically simple. I have swapped them between TM, KJ, and other brands that are TM compatible easily. I can use KJW 226 mags in a TM 226. The other way around - they are a tight fit but ultimately do work. The KJ frame is just tighter around the mag and the clearances are a bit different. They can be modified to work but not worth the effort, just buy the KJW 1 piece mags. The reason that TM has 2-piece mags is that they were originally designed for lower pressure duster and not greengas/propane. KJW can take much more pressure but I would recommend swapping the o-rings. I have done this to my KJW mags since the ones from factory are seemingly badly chosen, they are the wrong gauge. I put thicker ones in there and it improved performance and stopped all leaking issues completely - even if i leave the mags unoiled and unfilled with gas for weeks. Buy the VFC threaded barrel because the threads can separate from the actual outer barrel. That way you can leave the threaded part on the silencer so that when you take it off, the gun looks flat and doesn't have a part sticking out of it - sort of like the silencers you see in movies. __________________ SHÖCK

November 23rd, 2009, 22:45	#12
JohnnyDelRay Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2009	hey guys, i'm somewhat new to airsofting, (revived hobby from early-mid 90's) anyways just joined the forum coz it seems like people here really know what they're on about. Sorry to revive this old thread, but i always think it's good to keep information in the one place. Since my question is about KJW P226 mags: I have just bought one a month ago, loving the damn thing, but i noticed i got the one-piece mag. So this is noticeably better than a two-piece, but i wanted to ask SHöCK: should i still open up and change/thicken up the O-ring? How do i open up the one-piece? there doesn't seem to be a hex key thing at the bottom? Also thinking of performing the shim upgrade, just can't figure out how to get the bugger open... because of the varying pressures inside and out, i hear that these are a bit scary to overfill so at the most i give it 3-4 seconds, which is slightly over one mag of shooting (abt 25 rounds). It is pretty warm where i live but thats not much... Any help would be greatly appreciated, sorry for long post! Actually all i was asking is should i still perform maintenance on the 1-piece mag, it doesn't seem to be openable

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