Regular Ratio Helical Gears and Systema m120S spring compatible?

Fox Hound · July 4th, 2007, 22:17

I just want to know if the m120S will shred the regular ratio Systema helical gears?

Naglfar · July 4th, 2007, 22:38

My understanding is that helical gears are stronger than flat due to the increased surface area, and that steel flat gears would take an M120 no problem.

Fox Hound · July 4th, 2007, 23:16

i know they can take a m120 no problem but what about a m120S?

ILLusion · July 4th, 2007, 23:25

The gears will be fine. It won't shred, they're extremely tough.

However, you'll suffer from decreased motor life and battery life. Both of which, are intertwined. The motor requires more current to crank the spring since the gears aren't taking up the required at that velocity. So on each shot, your motor will draw more battery power. Simple as that. On top of that, you'll get added motor wear.

There will also be added stress between the pinion gear & bevel gear as well as between the bevel gear and spur gear.

Fox Hound · July 4th, 2007, 23:36

yea i am currently using the Magnum motor, and i've been using the Guarder SP100 without a problem, and i coulding even hear a whining pitch. Once after i put in the M120S, i could hear a faint whine.

Am i crazy or is it the motor?

ILLusion · July 5th, 2007, 00:14

That's normal. Heavier spring = higher stress on motor if you don't increase the torque of your gears. It gets louder as your spring gets heavier.

Fox Hound · July 14th, 2007, 22:23

ok well im back to this thread, i've used my Helical gears with the m120 and the sector gear is striped!!!

how could this have happened? i have standard gears, now will my standard gears work with my carbonated piston?

ILLusion · July 14th, 2007, 22:48

"Carbonated"?

You mean it's fizzy? Sparkling? What brand, Perrier or San Pellegrino?

The stripping could happen if the spur gear's shimmed too tight, and the bevel gear was freewheeling against it... or the sector gear was shimmed too tight and the spur gear freewheeled against it.

Fox Hound · July 14th, 2007, 23:09

lol carbonated

systema carbonate piston, for helical gears i mean

ILLusion · July 15th, 2007, 00:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fox Hound

lol carbonated

systema carbonate piston, for helical gears i mean

Polycarbonate? Yes, it will work. There's no reason why it wouldn't.

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July 4th, 2007, 22:17	#1
Fox Hound Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: North Bay / Stoney Creek	Regular Ratio Helical Gears and Systema m120S spring compatible? I just want to know if the m120S will shred the regular ratio Systema helical gears? Last edited by Fox Hound; July 4th, 2007 at 23:02..

July 4th, 2007, 23:25	#4
ILLusion GBB Whisperer Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto	The gears will be fine. It won't shred, they're extremely tough. However, you'll suffer from decreased motor life and battery life. Both of which, are intertwined. The motor requires more current to crank the spring since the gears aren't taking up the required at that velocity. So on each shot, your motor will draw more battery power. Simple as that. On top of that, you'll get added motor wear. There will also be added stress between the pinion gear & bevel gear as well as between the bevel gear and spur gear. __________________ *Advanced Airsoft Armaments and Enhancements* Quick to the gun, sure of your grip. Quick to the threat, sure of your shot. Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas Accuracy, Power, Speed

July 5th, 2007, 00:14	#6
ILLusion GBB Whisperer Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto	That's normal. Heavier spring = higher stress on motor if you don't increase the torque of your gears. It gets louder as your spring gets heavier. __________________ *Advanced Airsoft Armaments and Enhancements* Quick to the gun, sure of your grip. Quick to the threat, sure of your shot. Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas Accuracy, Power, Speed

July 4th, 2007, 22:38	#2
Naglfar Trader rating Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ottawa	My understanding is that helical gears are stronger than flat due to the increased surface area, and that steel flat gears would take an M120 no problem.

July 4th, 2007, 23:16	#3
Fox Hound Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: North Bay / Stoney Creek	i know they can take a m120 no problem but what about a m120S?

July 4th, 2007, 23:36	#5
Fox Hound Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: North Bay / Stoney Creek	yea i am currently using the Magnum motor, and i've been using the Guarder SP100 without a problem, and i coulding even hear a whining pitch. Once after i put in the M120S, i could hear a faint whine. Am i crazy or is it the motor?

July 14th, 2007, 22:23	#7
Fox Hound Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: North Bay / Stoney Creek	ok well im back to this thread, i've used my Helical gears with the m120 and the sector gear is striped!!! how could this have happened? i have standard gears, now will my standard gears work with my carbonated piston?

July 14th, 2007, 22:48	#8
ILLusion GBB Whisperer Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto	"Carbonated"? You mean it's fizzy? Sparkling? What brand, Perrier or San Pellegrino? The stripping could happen if the spur gear's shimmed too tight, and the bevel gear was freewheeling against it... or the sector gear was shimmed too tight and the spur gear freewheeled against it. __________________ *Advanced Airsoft Armaments and Enhancements* Quick to the gun, sure of your grip. Quick to the threat, sure of your shot. Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas Accuracy, Power, Speed

July 14th, 2007, 23:09	#9
Fox Hound Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: North Bay / Stoney Creek	lol carbonated systema carbonate piston, for helical gears i mean

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