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Old November 23rd, 2007, 17:53   #1
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Piston selection

I wanna upgrade the piston in my psg-1 and was wondering if I should go with an aluminum or polycarbonate ? Also since I have this started will the old Systema Torque up motor be able to handle the PDI 180% spring ? Mine doesn't seem to want to pull it back.

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Old November 24th, 2007, 18:13   #2
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im not sure about the motor but an aluminum piston with a 180 spring is asking for a cracked mechbox. Go polycarbanate.
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Old November 24th, 2007, 19:21   #3
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What kind of gears are you using?
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Old November 24th, 2007, 19:25   #4
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Pm Illusion. He's done upgrades like that and more extreme for the PSG-1. FWIW, Systema makes a 300% kit for it, so it will at least handle that. PDI 180% would take it to about 400ish fps. Not fabulous for a semi-auto gun.
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Old November 24th, 2007, 20:07   #5
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I've got the PSG-1 upgrade gears. Yeah right now it's shooting 402fps on the chrony. Systema now has the 400% kit but i'm not wanting to go that far. I just want to upgrade the rest of the stock parts. Illusion has helped me on troubleshooting before but I never really asked abotu this.
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Old November 25th, 2007, 05:03   #6
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+1 +1 +1 for polycarbonate (maybe 3 metal teeth poly pistons). What ever the costs are its not worth the gears and IMO re-shimming them.
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Old November 25th, 2007, 15:53   #7
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You could go with either of the pistons, polycarbonate will wear down a bit faster, though.
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Old November 25th, 2007, 16:57   #8
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Alright. We only play maybe twice a year and it doesn't see much action outside of that. So I may install the metal piston and if they get wore down give me an excuse to buy the Systema FTK. Also would adding a LiPo battery be a good idea for this setup ?
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Old November 26th, 2007, 14:06   #9
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Yeah, it'll help decrease your shot-to-shot times. Since the system is full auto, there shouldn't be any issues with a high voltage setup.
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Old November 26th, 2007, 14:29   #10
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Go high quality li-poly. No memory probs. No need to discharge it. 11.1 20c 1500mah- waaaay better than any 9.6. Takes up waaaay less room. More power. Annnd, if you happen to fry it, a li-polymer will only distort(bubble-up). Oh, and they can be had for cheap. I own quite a few, and I will never go back to nicd or nimh.
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Old November 26th, 2007, 16:03   #11
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Yeah, it'll help decrease your shot-to-shot times. Since the system is full auto, there shouldn't be any issues with a high voltage setup.
You mean isn't full auto ?
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Old November 26th, 2007, 17:19   #12
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You mean isn't full auto ?
Yes, my apologies. I didn't have my morning coffee yet.
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Old November 26th, 2007, 20:08   #13
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Yes, my apologies. I didn't have my morning coffee yet.
Completely understand that. Should I install a mosfet while using that lipo battery ?
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Old November 27th, 2007, 03:25   #14
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Not necessary. MOSFETS help with pull, not push. High voltage = push. High current (resulting from high powered springs) creates a pull. It's the current pull that burns out the selector plates.

At 400fps, you shouldn't have any major issues with that, although MOSFETS will give you a tiny ROF boost.

You're better off getting a torque up gear set and a higher torque motor (DON'T get the Systema Magnum motor or you won't be able to release your piston.)


I realize all of the above is probably incomprehensible. I'm sketched out from too much coffee and I'm also exhausted.
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