About Chinasoft guns, new people please read!

[ThunderCactus]

I've noticed a trend in chinasoft guns, there are 2 major problems that are arising constantly. Infact they are the only two problems I've had to fix on ALL the chinasoft guns I've "fixed"

1: MAKE SURE YOUR BATTERY IS CHARGED!!!!
Seems simple enough, but 75% of the guns I get in for fixing just need a charged battery.

2: "It shoots like crap, please fix it" You spent pennies on this gun, did you expect a systema PTW? it's a 200$ gun, it's not going to shoot like a 500$ TM. Whether it works as well as it's supposed to is hit or miss. They cut corners everywhere to save money, including quality control. Infact there's a disclaimer on WGC that states:
"The above airsoft gun is made in China and will be tested before shipping. We will test the
gun to ensure that it does work properly ( the qualified one in the test means it is able to
use up one whole magazine )."
And they've recently expanded the disclaimer to also say:
"No returns or exchanges will be given on any shipped items. Please consider thoroughly the associated risks before making a purchase."

They're pretty well telling you the gun your buying is crap. So anyone who sends in one of these guns to get fixed because "it shoots like crap" will either agree to pay for upgrades, or pay to get it shipped back to them.

Now on a more serious note, this lastest problem is an actual legitimate concerning problem. On the box of the JG M4 S-system, it states that it both shoots 400fps, and requires an 1100mah 8.4v battery.
Now what this means, is that the battery they recommend is a bit underpowered for the operation of this weapon. Although it will fire in full auto, it doesn't have enough power to bring the spring back all the way in semi auto. I know because this gun I'm holding right now works fine when the battery is fully charged, but not when it gets to 60% or below.

So in summary, charge your batteries, you get what you pay for, and make sure you have the proper battery.

[Ronan]

When buying a clone make sure its a full clone of a big brand gun.

Also the charger that comes with clones is usually pure crap so get a better one. Sometimes the same thign can be said about the batteries.

A good clean up of the mechbox + propper shimming is also important. That said, if your lucky you might have a good gun on your hand. Personally the JG MP5 RAS i handled was just as good as the ICS and TM one! For a lot less money

[Gamble]

I totally agree with Thundercatus.

Please, please, please don't waste your money on a cheap battery. Learn how battery voltage effects your gun. Learn what mAH are. And above all, learn how discharge rates effect your spring and motor.

[dodger_me]

also Chrono your guns first it you plan to play indoor.... my jg m4a1 was 390....with.25's(forgot to change to .2's...) and my kraken was 336 with .2's...

[BBS]

yeah their batteries are crap, so is their european charger. i wouldn't mind paying a little more for better, juicier batteries.

[matt491]

Originally Posted by BBS

yeah their batteries are crap, so is their european charger. i wouldn't mind paying a little more for better, juicier batteries.

Deans connectors also go a long way on crap batteries. I threw deans connectors on my stock battery and on my JG M4 that I had and it made a surprising difference for less than 5 bucks. (not saying it's AMAZING, but for 5 bucks, I was happy).

[Amos]

Just like the FN2000...

"ITS BROKEN"

... Actually.. Your battery wasn't charged.

[Sergeantmajor]

one thing tho, its not actually a $200 gun, more like a 80 bucks gun. its just the mark up.

[Shirley]

Gearbox = Important

[damage]

I like to add on JG Aeg's de-grease, re-lube, re-shim and new hop up sleeve.

[Schwag]

Damage is right. Sometimes the shimming isn't bad but the greases are awful and usually in big clumps. Gear grease gets in the cylinder and down onto the motor.
With my jg, I also changed the piston, piston head, spring guide, cylinder and inner barrel.
On my echo, the piston head was badly worn down one side, giving it a flat spot.
Still, if you're paying the u.s cost plus another 100-150 for parts, you have a great, powerful gun pretty cheap. Both my guns upgraded cost me less than a stock marui.

[yanhchan]

Oh and a warning to those getting those Dboys MK12 Mod 0 guns, the internals are basically M4 internals in an M16 length gun. We're talking ported cylinder, and M4 length inner barrel. If you get the chance swap that inner barrel out to an AK length/M16 length along with a new hop up rubber, or at least realign the stock hop up rubber you got.

@ CYMA M14s
New battery connector is a must, what the hell were they thinking putting mini connectors into a stock that can obviously fit a 8.4V battery.

[Styrak]

Originally Posted by yanhchan

@ CYMA M14s
New battery connector is a must, what the hell were they thinking putting mini connectors into a stock that can obviously fit a 8.4V battery.

What? Mini batteries can be 8.4V...or 9.6V or whatever...

[jtf2-phalanx]

I think what he meant was, why did they put mini-connectors (which are usually associated with small celled battery packs when the stock can hold a large sub-c celled battery pack. Right?

[ThunderCactus]

Could someone make this a sticky?