Tm P226 Silver

[ProbeJax]

I was wondering if anyone owned one of these. I want to know because I'm wondering if Tm actually used stainless steel as the name implies, or whether it's just the P226 with a coat of silver paint.

[ProbeJax]

Nevermind, I just checked WGC. It says that it's made of ABS, just like the standard 226.

[Styrak]

TM guns are always plastic. Icky.

[NovaKaynE]

Originally Posted by Styrak

TM guns are always plastic. Icky.

Which is why I will never have a TM product ever again.

[ProbeJax]

What about the T89 and the new AK74?

[Styrak]

Originally Posted by NovaKaynE

Which is why I will never have a TM product ever again.

Sorry I should rephrase: all TM pistols are plastic.

[NovaKaynE]

Originally Posted by Styrak

Sorry I should rephrase: all TM pistols are plastic.

I read somewhere that it's illegal for them (because of where their factory is) to produce any airsoft gun that has a metal body. Something about the 'local' law. I don't know if it's true, but this is why I always skip TM guns when i'm browsing through inventories and such. Not to mention the first gun I ever bought was a TM Commando and the receiver pin loops were broken right off, causing the gun to open up without warning. Ever since then, regardless what anyone tells me, I will never trust TM again. It's just that "first toy you'll always remember" thing.

The only none full metal product I would ever buy would be a Glock or a USP. I could always replace the plastic slides with metal slides. Even if the ABS pistol was modded out to look like something spectacular, I still wouldn't enjoy it as much because of what it's made from. Whereas with an all metal pistol, it just feels right because you know it's not plastic. To each their own I guess. I'm not saying TM sucks or anything, i'm just saying it's not for me. They have a huge amount of good looking pieces, but it's just the mental factor.

Sorry to hijack the thread.

[Styrak]

The TM Type89 has a metal receiver though.

[ProbeJax]

What's everyone's opinion on the TM P226R? I've found some reviews praising it, some other people seem to be have serious issues with the thing.

[Crunchmeister]

I've developed a dislike for TM guns myself, and not because of the plastic. I had my brand new, stock TM M4A1 blow its gears about a week after I got it. My P226R's internal pot metal gas unit cage got smashed to shit after 5 mags, preventing the slide from locking back when the mag was empty. I have 9 other guns, and not a problem with any one of them, and all have seen WAY more use than the TM guns. Even my JGs are better IMO.

I won't be wasting my time on any TM guns any more, no matter how great people say they are. I've been debating getting a Desert Eagle, and it may be the only way I'll ever get another TM gun.

[The Saint]

Good gaming gun. Two of the issues its got are pretty easy to avoid. Replace the stock piston head, because it has a tendency to wear down and jam the loading nozzle.

As for wear inside the frame against the slide stop, when the slide has locked back don't disengage the slide stop by pressing it. Instead, pull on the slide and the slide stop will gently disengage without wearing against the frame. That should reduce the wear by half.

[Kokanee]

The TM P226R is an outstanding gaming pistol. I've used it solid through two seasons on propane, completely stock and it's still 100% gtg.

[Crunchmeister]

I have a metal slide now. The slide catch actually locks into the groove in the slide rather than against that metal cage, so it's no longer an issue.

But the point being is you should HAVE to do that from a high quality gun. Yes, it will reduce the wear, but when cheap guns can run for years without that issue, why shouldn't the 'top of the line' gun be able to operate the way it was intended without its internals getting destroyed after 5 mags? It's like buying a Porsche, having the engine blow as soon as you reach 120 kmh, then the dealer not honouring the warranty because because you went over the speed limit.

And the wear I experienced only seems to occur on more recent model guns. Others have checked their guns that they've had for years, and it doesn't show any of that wear. TM just cheaped out on their recent batches, I think.

[The Saint]

TM is not Porsche. It's got a luxury line (ie. more recent TM AEGs), but most of its guns are not what I'd regard as high quality. I think people are expecting too much from TM.

[Crunchmeister]

ok, replace Porsche with Ford and the analogy stays the same.