Kraken AK-47 vs. Lycaon MP5

[stevesawatsky]

i've heard really great things about the kraken, as far as reliability is concerned. does anyone know how the lycaon (mp5) by aftermath compares? i know they're both rebranded cyma models but i couldn't really find any info on the stock reliability, and i am not 100% sure what changes were made from the cyma models that might affect reliablility.


i'm essentially looking for a gun that doesn't need to shoot 400+ fps, but won't break 10 minutes out of the box.

also, these guns are the ones i am interested in. please avoid telling me to uy a TM or any other gun you might want to recommend instead, thanks

[Donster]

technically, they both suck compared to other mainstream brands like TM, CA, G&P etc. but between the two, get a kraken.

EDIT: with these types of guns, it is really the luck of the draw as to whether or not they will break out of the box. some do some dont. Some last 100 rounds, others last thousands. if you upgrade it out of the box, you will avoid the problems but then why not just get another gun?

[stevesawatsky]

to be honest, and i know you asc types will rape me for this, i just don't have the money now. so i wanted to buy a cheap upgradable gun that i can fix when it breaks, but can use for a bit till i have the cash.

[TokyoSeven]

Purchase whatever one you like the look of. I recommend the kraken. Use it till it explodes or funnel money into upgrading it. Honestly I would never bother upgrading a lower end gun. Thats a personal prefernce. However changing out things like bushings and reshimming is not an upgrade but preventative maintenance in my opinion.

[Amos]

Krakens make a very decent upgrade platform... But make sure you know what you're doing.

[stevesawatsky]

Originally Posted by Amos

Krakens make a very decent upgrade platform... But make sure you know what you're doing.

at this point, i don't know what i'm doing. but how else could i learn? i'd rather learn on a $200 gun than a $600 dollar gun.
unless you guys offer classes haha

[Donster]

fill out your user profile so then you can contact a local gun doc.

[FiveFingers]

i have the lycaon mp5... for a first gun it dose the job. but i learned alot about it being cheep. i had to replace the cutoff lever and since i had to do that i swapped the plastic bushings for metal. now it's my back up or loaner gun. the cutoff actually broke on me during an ops... thank god i had my tac1 springer as a backup. if you are willing to spend $150 to $180 on an aeg save up a few more dollars and get a jg i got my 416 for $350 and for that price you get a very good and decent quality gun.

[pusangani]

+1 for Krakens

[FiveFingers]

oh yeah i handled a kraken and it is better than the mp5 but it needs to be preped or it might fall apart on you while your on field

[Jayne Finch]

i love my kraken never tried the lycaon. but if you want a decent little starter or loaner go for it.

[AXe Hound]

i would have to say the kraken there are just so many parts for it that it makes so easy to up grade

[stevesawatsky]

Originally Posted by DONSTER 125

technically, they both suck compared to other mainstream brands like TM, CA, G&P etc. but between the two, get a kraken.

EDIT: with these types of guns, it is really the luck of the draw as to whether or not they will break out of the box. some do some dont. Some last 100 rounds, others last thousands. if you upgrade it out of the box, you will avoid the problems but then why not just get another gun?

i've heard CA has a reputation for being terribly unreliable?

[Dusti69]

sorry my comp crashed before i could edit my post and finish

get the kraken. start out with replacing the bushings, and advice directly from amos: buy a decent replacement piston head. shop ehobbyasia. their prices are good
gigaknight posted this for me in one of my threads. it will help
http://www.mechbox.com/site/mechbox-...ade-video.html

i think the krakens mag holds something like 1000 bbs. ive had my mag filled and emptied several times this month just having fun shooting it. no problems other than a slight drop in fps

[stevesawatsky]

how hard is it to replace a piston head? it doesn't seem like it would be too difficult to a beginner who is mechanically inclined. i'm staying out of the mechbox though...