D-Boys M-4 Body/Mag compatibility

[tsuru]

I've searched numerous places but I can't find a straight answer: What mags work best with D-Boys M-4 metal bodies? I've got a pile of King Arms lowcaps that I would hate to waste if they're not going to work with the body I'm interested in.

[Shirley]

That's weird, how does it not work with the body?

[Skladfin]

As far as my experience goes, They have first gen, second gen, and third gen Metal bodies up to this point.

first gen was the one that was complete utter crap, the magwell was so small that sanding/dremeling had to be done to fit in most magazines.

The second gen had good compatibility, all my TMs, JG, Dboys, KWA, MAG, all fit just fine.

Third Gen has a pretty big magwell, larger than normal. I had a couple S.Arms Midcaps back in the days, they were the fattest mags I've ever used. The S.arms mags didnt fit my KWA, TM, nor JG, but it fit the 3rd Gen Dboys Metal body easily.

Hope that helps

[Colin_S]

D-Boys metal bodies are absolutely garbage, get something else if you can. If you've already ordered a D-Boys, you may need to sand down the magwell for some reason they add a lot of extra material inside, or at least they did with the 3 bodies I've seen.

[Shirley]

Originally Posted by Skladfin

As far as my experience goes, They have first gen, second gen, and third gen Metal bodies up to this point.

first gen was the one that was complete utter crap, the magwell was so small that sanding/dremeling had to be done to fit in most magazines.

The second gen had good compatibility, all my TMs, JG, Dboys, KWA, MAG, all fit just fine.

Third Gen has a pretty big magwell, larger than normal. I had a couple S.Arms Midcaps back in the days, they were the fattest mags I've ever used. The S.arms mags didnt fit my KWA, TM, nor JG, but it fit the 3rd Gen Dboys Metal body easily.

Hope that helps

Oh no wonder...
I was wondering why my mags were a bit loosy in the magwell.

You get what you pay for.

[jesster202]

ok skalfdin knows what hes tlaking aobut no they arnt utter crap. their pre assembled guns are awesome better than jg/tm and very relable. next any mag will work your problem has to do with ka lows or mids i had to get help and u file down the little nub that holds the bbs in its due to the d boys shiity hop up thats why i replaced and still do so to my ka mags as it stopps all feeding problems with them its your mags not the body.

[Muffin]

Yipes, Jesster I'm not trying to be a prude but you REALLY need to use spell check.
I've found that JG mags fit the new ones just fine.

[TokyoSeven]

Some like kraft dinner, some like no name brand noodles and cheese sauce.

Depending on the body you may require a different fix, some of the older metal bodies had a very tight clearance in the mag well. I also found very tight clearances for a hopup in the front of the upper. However its nothing terrible to fix if you have dremel access.
I myself have never run into any issues in regards to having to shave off any material from magazines. However, everyones experiences are different. Dboys maybe learning from their past mistakes are their newer bodies dont seem to have as many clearance issues.

To the original poster, your KA mags will not go to waste, however, be prepared to dremel just in case. You may not need to but you never know. You do get what you pay for.

For myseld though after my intial experience with my own and a few others I made a personal decision to never work with them again. A dboys metal body is worth what? Maybe 30-40 dollars outside of Canada, and they go for what? 150-200 here in country? Whats a G&P or king arms worth outside of Canada. 100ish?110ish? Whats it worth in country. 200-250 give or take? When I think about it, why bother paying 5 times the cost for a low end-mediocre quality item when you can pay an extra 50 dollars and still only pay 2 times the original cost for a decent quality item.

Its all a matter of opinion I guess, personal preferences in regards to standards and quality. I like kraft dinner.

[jesster202]

ture but the d boys metal body is the most redily aviable body here

[TokyoSeven]

Wow thats the weakest argument ever.

Pretend our market is flooded with cheap craptastic asian clone pistons that cost 2 dollars but usually shred after a few thousand rounds.

Id rather drop the money on a quality prometheus and never have to worry about the issue.

[808]

I have owned 2 DBOYS metal bodies recently, the older of the two has a huge mag well. I needed to put a strip of electrical tape on either side of the interior of the well to get mags to fit snugly.

The most recent one I bought fits KA mid-caps like a dream. It also fits AdventureLine (TM) mags snugly, and my CA hi-cap fits like a dream.

Although, I installed a TM mag catch because I don't like the DBOYS one, and that made what was a tight fit (I had to tap the bottom of the mag to get the catch to lock) into a great fit (no tap, just smooth action).

So there's my experience.

[Colin_S]

Perhaps I should qualify my opinion with the experiences I've had with the three bodies I've installed so far.

Body #1. After the mechbox was installed the selector switch was so tight that the disc that moves the selector plate broke off (after changing the fire selector setting a few times). Mechbox locking pin holes were not aligned so I could not install the pin. The rear part that inserts into the buffer tube was too thick and I had to sand down both guide rails (tried a TM and CA buffer tube).

Body #2. Again mechbox locking pin could not be secured. There were what seemed to be ridges inside the mag well (it looked like this on the sides _____--_____--____), had to sand down that part to get mags to fit properly. Paint was starting to bubble off even though body was NIB.

Body #3. Same ridge in magwell issue as body #2. Even with the upper receiver slid in properly, there was a bit of play between the upper and lower receivers.

As T7 said considering the price of dBoys metal bodies in Canada they definitely do not offer the same value as G&P, KA or CA. If they were dirt cheap like they are in the US and the rest of the world that's different, a bit of work to get things to fit would not be unreasonable but for what you pay it's not worth it.

I won't work on another dBoys body, if someone has one they'll have to find another gun doc.

[jesster202]

t7 you had a bad experice with them. comming form me and my experecnes I have had 15 of them come though my hands in the past 3 months, yes thats right 15 all if them i tetsed for fitment only 2 (the one i am using now needed work the outher one was so warped had to be trashed) but, as you said you have also seen g and p ones have to be sanded down to just fit. that said i have ka ones on the way and one here that i will be slapping on in a bit they are diffently worth the money.

[Shirley]

Always a chance you'll have problems. People should research about the bodies before buying, and have to know they're up for it to do sanding and modifications to fit.

[Colin_S]

While it's true that other brands do have issues too, there's a disproportionately large number of dBoys bodies with problems. So you've played with 15 bodies, good for you and anyone else who's had success. To me they're cheap and a lot of trouble which aren't worth the time but I guess it's all relative.