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Old November 7th, 2008, 18:17   #1
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Would a 9.6V 1400mAh Battery be Good Enough for My Upgrade

I'm planning on getting the following parts to upgrade my TM SIG 552 and I want to know if a 9.6V 1400mAh battery would be good enough to power my gun after the upgrade.

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Prometheus 6.03mm EG Barrel Inner Barrel (433mm) covered by a TM Knight's Pro Silencer
Systema Bore Up Cylinder Set
Systema Flat Gear Set 2 (High Speed)
Systema Irregular-Pitch Spring (M130)
Systema High Speed Motor
Systema Poly Carbonate Piston
Systema Spring Guide with Bearing
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Old November 7th, 2008, 18:42   #2
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Why are you putting a M130 in there?

It will bring you above most fields limit for an AEG, maybe above 450 fps.

You will have a very hard time with your gear set with that spring. High speed is meant for low fps setups (M100 and under). You would need a torque-up instead.

And off course, the battery won't be powerfull enought with the parts you plan to use.
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Old November 7th, 2008, 18:53   #3
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Maybe I'll just go with an M120 spring and a torque up gear set. Around how much FPS will that run me with that setup?

How about an 11.1V 1900mAh Li-Po battery? Will that be able to handle my upgrades?
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Old November 7th, 2008, 18:56   #4
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M120 with these parts will bring you very close to 400, if not over.

a LiPo will be able to crank that easilly. But keep in mind that if you don't use some sort of MOSFET unit, your trigger contacts will wear insanely fast.
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Old November 7th, 2008, 18:57   #5
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I think you need to seriously revise your upgrade plans. Judging by your list, you don't have much experience with upgrades. What exactly are you trying to accomplish in terms of FPS and ROF? Tell us that and we'll tell you what you need.
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Old November 7th, 2008, 19:13   #6
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Basically, I just want to get my gun shooting between 400-450 FPS and also maintain a pretty hight ROF. But I would like to do this with mainly Systema components. What parts would you suggest I get to achieve this goal?
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Old November 7th, 2008, 19:22   #7
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Where do you play that they allow over 400fps full auto?

My recommendations:
-Modify cylinder, cylinder head, piston head, and airseal nozzle
-Prometheus Ms135 spring
-SystemA all helical highspeed gears
-SystemA bushings
-Prometheus 6.03 as in your list
-SystemA Magnum motor

Modify parts (at least the ones I listed) are amazing for the price. I have had far more trouble getting SystemA/Prometheus parts working than Modify when it comes to the airseal components. Helical gears have 1.5x the area engaged at any given moment so less of a chance of stripping though standard ratio gears might still be better since you are pushing over 400fps. The SystemA turbo motor is only fast with an M110 spring or less. Past that it doesn't have the torque to maintain its speed. The Magnum motor is faster than any motor on the market (except the Turbo) and can power up to an M170 I think it said on redwolf. Also for this setup I would recommend either LiPo, dual 9.6V packs (for the higher amperage), or a large 10.8V pack.

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I have never had any problem running up to an M140 on stock TM gears. Torque up gears are for insane upgrades (500+ fps) and to alleviate stress on the motor and battery. They do reduce the ROF though. Also I have tried boreup and non-boreup kits with the same everything else in the gun (including spring) and the fps only went up maybe 10-15fps with the boreup over the normal (was using an Ms120.)

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Old November 7th, 2008, 19:28   #8
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400 to 450fps? That's too hot for most fields, unless you keep it on semi...

Not quite sure what your love affair with Systema is, but you could do what you want with mainly Modify parts.

Use the parts listed in this set as your rule of thumb: http://www.airsoftparts.ca/store2/in...oducts_id=1061

The only thing above that you need to get specifically for a SIG is the air nozzle. Everything else is generic version 3. Based on your barrel length (433mm tightbore), a Modify S110+ should be slightly over 400fps. The Modify S100+ in my AEG (509mm tightbore) is 400fps on the dot.

Since the above is a high torque set, get a high torque motor. A 9.6v mini will pull that, get a 1500mah mini if you're worried about battery life.

It might be worth your time to throw a Sorbothane cylinder cushion in there as well.

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Old November 7th, 2008, 19:32   #9
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Oh yeah, and I stripped a set of SystemA all helical highspeed gears trying to run an M140 spring on em, just to see if I could. Also the two best pistons I have ever used are a Prometheus hard type and a Deep Fire full metal toothed one. Both come in both full teeth for standard gears and half teeth for torque up helical gears (different from SystemA all helical, they can use standard pistons) and are very tough. I find the Deep Fire one stronger but make sure its a ver.2, the original Deep Fire pistons had a problem where the plastic broke down around the metal teeth, the ver.2 doesn't do that.

Also I have stripped more Modify pistons than I care to count, I really don't recommend them. Deep Fire all metal toothed, Prometheus hard type, TM stock, and Guarder grey type have all worked very well for me.

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Old November 7th, 2008, 19:42   #10
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Thanks for the opinions and suggestions.

I'll look further into this, taking into account what you guys have said, and see what I can come up with.
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Old November 7th, 2008, 20:11   #11
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Should I also get this:

Action Low Resistance Switch Assembly

And is this CKW MOSFET Switch any good?
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Old November 7th, 2008, 20:19   #12
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Should I just get this Guarder SP120 FTK since the barrel length that I'm going to get is close to the same length as an AK47/S barrel? WGC says that I can use this FTK with a 9.6V battery. How much FPS would this FTK get me? Also, should I get an upgraded motor and reinforced gearbox if I get this FTK?

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Old November 8th, 2008, 03:51   #13
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Look it up in the chart: http://www.airsoftcanada.com/SpringChart.html

And yes you should probably use a 9.6V battery if it's a mini.
A 8.4 large would probably be fine. Also a stock TM motor should be fine, just depends on the battery.
Your gun has a V3 mechbox right? You shouldn't have to buy a reinforced gearbox. Run it till it breaks, which might not be for a long time.
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Old November 8th, 2008, 04:10   #14
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my list:

Prometheus M110(believe me, that will put you around 390fps)
Prometheus bearing spring guide
Systema silent piston head + cylinder set

done
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Old November 8th, 2008, 09:21   #15
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my list:

Prometheus M110(believe me, that will put you around 390fps)
Prometheus bearing spring guide
Systema silent piston head + cylinder set

done
I like your suggestion, the less parts to get the better. But how long would my original Ver. 3 TM Gearbox last with these parts? And what if I get a MS120 spring instead of the MS110 that you suggested?
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