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Old November 15th, 2008, 00:29   #1
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Upgrading G36c gearbox need advice

Hi i have a stock JG g36c, and im looking to just get a little performance boost, nothing big, just wanna upgrade spring guide, brushing and spring.
Im not sure v. gearbox it is, iv looked around and seen 2&3,
not sure what brushing size to use iv seen 5mm? is that right? And will i need shims?

And are these good choices:
http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/guarder-a...earing-v2.html
http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/pdi-spring-150.html
http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/other-aeg...g-bushing.html
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Old November 15th, 2008, 00:55   #2
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if you're this clueless, you shouldn't do it yourself, find a gun doc.

Believe me, you will fuck something up in the process.

in any case, it uses 6mm bushings and the gearbox version is v3
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Old November 15th, 2008, 03:51   #3
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agree with Skladfin....

but anyway

get:
Sorbo pad
M120
poly carbonate bb piston head and piston
bb springguide
aluminum double o-rinf cylinder head.
SHIMS
oiless bushings 6mm
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Old November 15th, 2008, 03:52   #4
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yea i DONT touch the insides of my guns.... thats for my gun doc to do....
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Old November 18th, 2008, 22:53   #5
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iv messaged both gundocs in my area 3 days ago and so far none of them have replied, so im looking for a gun doc near me(I live in Vaughan, willing to ship), willing to pay reasonable rates no problem.

Also What do you guys think about this set?
http://www.wgcshop.com/pcart/shopper...TK36_srch_shim
I plan on either getting that kit but using a PDI 140% spring or buying these piece's individually:
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h9..._1991/erer.jpg
I will also be getting sorbo pads with either one.
And will i need a 9.6v battery or will i be ok with a 8.4?

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Old November 19th, 2008, 15:36   #6
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oh yea i want to get around 350 fps

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Old November 21st, 2008, 11:06   #7
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upp someone plz help
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Old November 21st, 2008, 11:16   #8
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I'll do it, if you don't think I'm too far, $15/hr. PM me if you're interested.

Since it's a JG, the big question is whether it's old enough to need these special bushings or new enough to use standard 6mm bushings.
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Old November 21st, 2008, 11:32   #9
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i bought it used so its at least year old maybe two
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Old November 21st, 2008, 11:36   #10
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It might be easier for you to ship the gun to me, so I can check it out. Then I can tell you what you need, and you can have the parts shipped to me.

Like I said, if you're seriously interested, PM me.
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Old February 6th, 2009, 11:04   #11
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Since we're on the subject of JG/Echo1 G36c's, I have been wondering which internal upgrades one would want to consider for longetivity. Since you guys will be working on the JG/E1 G36c, I would greatly appreciate if you disclosed to me what of the internal parts need to go, and what stock parts are solid - if this is apparent to you when you open it up.
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Old February 6th, 2009, 11:24   #12
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Since we're on the subject of JG/Echo1 G36c's, I have been wondering which internal upgrades one would want to consider for longetivity. Since you guys will be working on the JG/E1 G36c, I would greatly appreciate if you disclosed to me what of the internal parts need to go, and what stock parts are solid - if this is apparent to you when you open it up.
I don't have experience with the Echo1 G36, so take this information with a grain of salt, but my suggestion would be:

Bearing Spring Guide
Polycarb piston and piston head (head doesn't need to be bearing)
If it doesn't have metal bushings, put in metal bushings.
New hop-up (pro-win ones are good, even the stock CA one is decent)
polycarb tappet plate
maybe a new nozzel (prometheus ones are good).
Properly shim it too.
Regrease it.
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Old February 6th, 2009, 11:40   #13
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Ratsley i just pm'd you about my echo-1 g36c about the upgrade it's been throug, could help you.. i almost wanna copy/paste that pm in an appropriate thread.
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Old February 6th, 2009, 11:43   #14
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Hi, i got an older version of an echo-1 g36c, one version that didnt came with metal bushing. That's the first thing you shall look into. if you already have metal bushings installed, a steel spring guide should be the next thing to upgrade.

After those 2 crucial parts, look for a new piston and piston head, polycarbonate piston head with bearing and polycarbonate piston by Modify (see http://www.airsoftparts.ca/store2/index.php) are nice and of good quality.

That's all the upgrade my g36c as gone throug (not true : i forgot my spring compressed for 3 month and had to change it) but i warn you on that, watch out for the fps increase, you may need a softer spring, those upgrade can easily give you a good 15-30 fps more. I can't use my gun for cqb now and since i only found an harder spring i fear it will be too strong for outdoor gaming too.

One ast thing, look closely your barrel assembly after each game. The point where the inner barrel and the hop-up is attached to the barrel assembly is prone to break. that plastic at the end of the barrel assembly is too soft. I had to epoxy glue mine with a bit of mighty putty but now it work like new.
I hope this will help a little.

edit : Kalnaren said to change the tappet plate too and i can only agree. I have not changed mine yet but i will do. the stock one just seem so soft to me. Look like it could bend instead of pulling the nose.
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