KWA M9 PTP review/pictures

[Sim123456]

Hi guys, as you know already from my mopic review, I received this KWA M9 PTP. There is already an excellent review of this airsoft here on this forum, but a new one could be refreshing. My last GBB was a KJW M9 Elite IA so I will compare both, even if it is been more then 2 years since I sold this one.

The box is beautiful, it comes with cheap .2g bbs, hop up key and silicone oil, wich surprised me. What surprised me more, is the emptiness of loading rod... must load the magazine by hand, wich is long. Anyway.

The gun is very heavy, around 1.1 kg and the weight is well distributed, even without the mag. The KJW version had a bad ratle when the magazine was in, this one doesn't ratle at all and feel stronger then the KJW one.

On apparence, the gun is empy of any brand and marking, wich I founded cool on the KJW one, even with his fake product number. But it is only blingness factor anyway.

The gun come with a plastic outer barrel with a orange painted nozzle, wich I painted back in black.

There is 3 distincs with dots on the sights to help accuracy. The power seem stronger then the 330fps KJW, wich is normal since it is rated at 360fps. The blowback is strong and crisp.

In conclusion, the quality is nice, all metal (almost) constructed, easy hop up adjusting, strong and accurate, so a good buy

[jesster202]

how are the groupings and arnt theys ksc compatible? also do you find the kick harder than the kjw my kjw i have a 150 hammer spring and it kicks hard how's this thing stock. also forgot to add is the mag catch plastic or metal???

[Sim123456]

I didn't do grouping test yet and I read that KWA are clone of KSC and KJW are clone of Marui. I had a home made mofidy hammer spring on my KJW and both are equal, both have strong kicks. I will chek for the mag catch and I'll answer back.

Also forgot to mention, for people experiences with this new version of the KWA M9, a list of compatible upgrades would be great:

high flow valve
enchanced recoil and hammer spring
6.01 thigh bore

[Sha Do]

Originally Posted by jesster202

how are the groupings and arnt theys ksc compatible? also do you find the kick harder than the kjw my kjw i have a 150 hammer spring and it kicks hard how's this thing stock. also forgot to add is the mag catch plastic or metal???

The mag catch is metal. Everything on these are metal except for the outter barrel and the grips.
In terms of the groupings, I haven't actually done any testing, but using 0.20s gets you about the same range as 300 fps AEG with a poor grouping (about 2 hits on a 1 foot target at 120 feet out of 10 shots). However, using 0.30 weight BBs resulted in a marginally shorter overall range, but drastically improved the ballistics and over all accuracy.

Originally Posted by Sim123456

Also forgot to mention, for people experiences with this new version of the KWA M9, a list of compatible upgrades would be great:

high flow valve
enchanced recoil and hammer spring
6.01 thigh bore

Any of the parts for the KWA PTP M9 are compatable with the KWA M9 "Heavy", which are the available upgrades for the KWA M9. The only thing that isn't compatable are the mags.

In either case there are no upgrades available for the M9 PTP (as KWA has thrown the best of what the have into it)....so there is no point in installing an enhanced hammer or recoil spring, and it already has their high flow valve. Though a 6.01 TN barrel would be nice to see.


SHA DO

[sushi_boy604]

hows the recoil? i have the p226 PTP and the recoil isn't what i hoped for. i am saving up for my m9 ptp.

[Sha Do]

Originally Posted by sushi_boy604

hows the recoil? i have the p226 PTP and the recoil isn't what i hoped for. i am saving up for my m9 ptp.

Originally Posted by Sim123456

.....There is 3 distincs with dots on the sights to help accuracy. The power seem stronger then the 330fps KJW, wich is normal since it is rated at 360fps. The blowback is strong and crisp.

I wouldn't say it kicks like a mule or anything as such, but it is fast, crisp, and strong compaired to any other unmodded pistol.
I'm very pleased with the one I got last season, and it has served me well. Though I have not handled a p226 in the PTP version...I knew better than to get one.

SHA DO

[Sim123456]

Didn't realse there was already an high flow maybe this is the difference of 30 fps between KJW one and this one. I guess the blow back isn't as hard as the Desert Eagle hard kick. I wish there would be a full metal version with 8mm bbs ^^

[Sha Do]

LOL....absolutely right, 8mm BBs rule.

SHA DO

[Sim123456]

I don't know why they don't make this kind of models. I think there is some Python Revolver with 8mm bbs

[dragwindsor]

Originally Posted by Sha Do

LOL....absolutely right, 8mm BBs rule.

SHA DO

Yes they do.

My Marushin Colt Constrictor Loves them.

[Sim123456]

Where did you buy it? Would love a 44 magnum with the 8 inch canon

[Krusty]

The M9 PTP was developed exclusively as a durable professional training weapon. What sets the M9 PTP apart from the competition is the new KWA internal gas delivery system. Almost every part of the gas system has been overhauled and re-engineered to increase efficiency and reliability. The heart of the new system is a new advance lightweight gas piston that increases the weapon cycle rate which provides for a faster and more realistic blow back action.

The new M9 PTP uses a new outer barrel design with integrated feed ramp and locking block for positive feeding and reduced lockup time. The frame and slide of the M9 PTP is constructed from high quality alloy steel and is made to a 1:1 ratio of the real firearm it replicates. Weights are strategically distributed during production process to closely match the weight and balance of a real firearm. Functional features such as the slide catch and hammer decock safety are faithfully replicated and adds to the realism. Beveled magazine well aids in quick and accurate reload. Even the M9 PTP magazine has been completely redesigned to compliment the new gas system. Instead of metal stamping, the new magazine is milled from a solid piece of steel bar stock. New O-ring designed needle valve prevents excessive gas from escaping during gas fill ups. 360 FPS.

I own one of these as well and they are by far better than any stock GBB made today. As far as I know they were initially made for Police & Military training. The only down side is that the magazines are more expensive than regular GBB Magazines.

[Sim123456]

I know they have ohters BGG with the "PTP". I does feel sturdy and stronger ^^

[Sim123456]

Here is a little video I did with my need Canon Powershot. Light is bad since it is my first try but you can have a look of the M9 firing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95t0i...&feature=email

[Lakonian]

Steel frame? I highly doubt that.